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  • #51
    Originally posted by CaneloMaidana View Post
    Stop, there was very legitimate criticism of Lomachenko. Remember he was given a title shot after 1 fight. Anyone who has a problem with that is racist?
    So when people make "legitimate" criticisms of Lomachenko, who almost won his first title shot against a 20 pound heavier opponent so clearly he wasn't out of his element, they're not racist, but when people make legitimate criticisms of Ward and Floyd, that's racist?

    Or are you saying there are no legitimate criticisms of Ward and Floyd? Because outside of a segment of black boxing fans who only root for black fighters and don't care about entertainment, just black fighters winning, there is widespread consensus that Ward and Floyd are too of the most boring fighters in the sport. They are also huge divas with their demands. They also foul more than any other top boxers. Their defensive style is also centered around dipping down below the waist to get away from straight right hands, which is an illegal move according to boxing rules. They also don't fight regularly, and pick and choose what opponents to fight and at what time, instead of making the fights fans want to see. Floyd has also tried to dictate what gloves his opponents use, when that authority belongs to the boxing commission, not the fighters. Floyd has also paid money under the table to get his opponent to wear the gloves he picked out, which is paying money for a competitive advantage, which ruins the integrity of the sport. I know you don't care about that because you don't seem to care about the integrity of the sport so long as the black fighter gets a fake win, but many of us are true boxing fans who do care more about an even playing field and the integrity of the sport than we care about a fighter's skin color.

    Ward also compared his time out of the ring to get a better contract to Muhammad Ali's time out of the ring because of dissent about the Vietnam war, which was extremely, extremely arrogant and ridiculous of Ward. And Floyd has been found guilty of hitting women outside of the ring.

    Are these not legitimate criticisms? Because I prefer exciting fighters, who respect the sport, fight clean, and try to fight the best, instead of boring fighters who act like divas, rarely fight, hold and use illegal tactics, I guess that makes me racist?

    Sorry man, but you don't have to be obsessed with race to like exciting fighters. You kind of do have to be obsessed with race in order to like boring ones, though. So you tell me, who is the one obsessed with race, fans like me, who like exciting fighters, or fans like you, who like boring fighters because of their skin color?
    Last edited by Boxing Logic; 08-09-2016, 07:40 PM.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by CaneloMaidana View Post
      You guys are such hypocrites.
      Yes of course we are. You do a great job of telling other people what they are or what they should think. A helluva job at bashing people, but me thinks you won't like the truth about yourself and your opinions bucko. So I will just stop now and save my time. Goodnight bro.

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      • #53
        Didn't really understand the comment: "the fight will happen if Ward wants it to happen", and then she started to complain about the MGM making demands and Bob Arum who has nothing to do with the fight, wat does Ward not wanting the fight have to do with the MGM grand making such demands? Is Kathy trying to use the media again during negotiations or is she gonna pull out of these negotiations too like she did with the Stevenson fight? Taking stuff like this to the media is always unprofessional and never a good sign.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by Boxing Logic View Post
          So when people make "legitimate" criticisms of Lomachenko, who almost won his first title shot against a 20 pound heavier opponent so clearly he wasn't out of his element, they're not racist, but when people make legitimate criticisms of Ward and Floyd, that's racist?

          Or are you saying there are no legitimate criticisms of Ward and Floyd? Because outside of a segment of black boxing fans who only root for black fighters and don't care about entertainment, just black fighters winning, there is widespread consensus that Ward and Floyd are too of the most boring fighters in the sport. They are also huge divas with their demands. They also foul more than any other top boxers. Their defensive style is also centered around dipping down below the waist to get away from straight right hands, which is an illegal move according to boxing rules. They also don't fight regularly, and pick and choose what opponents to fight and at what time, instead of making the fights fans want to see. Floyd has also tried to dictate what gloves his opponents use, when that authority belongs to the boxing commission, not the fighters. Floyd has also paid money under the table to get his opponent to wear the gloves he picked out, which is paying money for a competitive advantage, which ruins the integrity of the sport. I know you don't care about that because you don't seem to care about the integrity of the sport so long as the black fighter gets a fake win, but many of us are true boxing fans who do care more about an even playing field and the integrity of the sport than we care about a fighter's skin color.

          Ward also compared his time out of the ring to get a better contract to Muhammad Ali's time out of the ring because of dissent about the Vietnam war, which was extremely, extremely arrogant and ridiculous of Ward. And Floyd has been found guilty of hitting women outside of the ring.

          Are these not legitimate criticisms? Because I prefer exciting fighters, who respect the sport, fight clean, and try to fight the best, instead of boring fighters who act like divas, rarely fight, hold and use illegal tactics, I guess that makes me racist?

          Sorry man, but you don't have to be obsessed with race to like exciting fighters. You kind of do have to be obsessed with race in order to like boring ones, though. So you tell me, who is the one obsessed with race, fans like me, who like exciting fighters, or fans like you, who like boring fighters because of their skin color?
          Loma was 135 vs Saldo you liar, not 20 pounds less.

          What a fake fan like you doesnt get is I like great fighters, Golovkin isn't exciting, has he ever had a fight of the year contender? Nope because he just beats up bums.

          Barrera, Duran, Chavez, Hatton and Naseem are in my favorite fighters ever you racist moron, I'm named after two Hispanic fighters you idiot, I drove 12 hours to see Khytrov before he was Haymon, ****** bigot.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by Boxing Logic View Post
            Sorry man, but you don't have to be obsessed with race to like exciting fighters. You kind of do have to be obsessed with race in order to like boring ones, though. So you tell me, who is the one obsessed with race, fans like me, who like exciting fighters, or fans like you, who like boring fighters because of their skin color?
            Dude don't waste your time man...seriously save yourself the wasting of time.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by turnedup View Post
              Yes of course we are. You do a great job of telling other people what they are or what they should think. A helluva job at bashing people, but me thinks you won't like the truth about yourself and your opinions bucko. So I will just stop now and save my time. Goodnight bro.
              Good cause I'd hurt your coward feelings.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by turnedup View Post
                Dude don't waste your time man...seriously save yourself the wasting of time.
                You got no argument you hypocrite.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by CaneloMaidana View Post
                  Good cause I'd hurt your coward feelings.
                  Pathetic...as usual. As i've told plenty of your fellow trolls whenever you want to find out just how coward I am hit me up, i'll have you ****t*ng calcium bits for weeks.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Kigali View Post
                    Ward is everything they claim to love....humble....family man...stays out of trouble...not with Haymon

                    ....and they STILL hate him.

                    We know what the issue is.
                    Yea he is the direct opposite of Floyd yet the exact same posters hate him the same way they hated Floyd..i dont get it he even does VADA testing

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by Boxing Logic View Post
                      You're right man. Sorry for disturbing you in your no facts zone. You was all peaceful there, and I came in with fact after fact messing with your vibe... that wasn't cool. I was out of line. I'll leave you be.
                      Didn't you see how fast Kovalev shut his mouth and jumped out the ring when he saw Stevenson???

                      Dude ran away from his own post fight interview....UNPRECEDENTED..!

                      Talk a ton of smack....then get quiet as a dead rat the second the guy shows up....... smacks of cowardice.

                      Kathy Duva is the reason the fight didn't happen...she's not putting Kova in there with anybody scoring KO's.

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