Comments Thread For: Berto Feels Broner, Garcia Made Mistake With Pacquiao Offer

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  • MrRolltide91
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    #31
    He's right......

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    • The Big Dunn
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      #32
      Originally posted by hectari
      Non comparable, pacquiao was a superstar and doing million ppv buys and well known, floyd was trying to low ball him, danny and broner have never headlined a ppv, are not household names, non comparable.
      only a complete faggot replies to posts from people they have on ignore. Why don't you take me off so I can post in your threads?

      In that respect they are different, I agree. They are similar in the ways I pointed out and are thus comparable.

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      • Manic Shot
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        #33
        Arum: Damn, i forgot about Berto on my list to fight Manny!

        Broner thinks he's "About Billions", but in reality he's a "Walmart change".

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        • niceyboo3
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          #34
          Originally posted by Boxfan83
          I find it funny how people crap all over Vargas for taking/wanting a fight with Manny. IMO Vargas beats Broner and vs Garcia its a 50/50 fight. Just because Vargas lost to Tim Bradley people want to **** all over him. Both Broner and Garcia would lose to Bradley the same way if not worse and they are/were more acclimated/established to/at WW than Vargas was when he took the fight with Bradley. Vargas is a solid fighter, tough chin with a nice 1-2. I hope Vargas makes these premaddona's say "damn, that coulda been me."
          I disagree and I believe both Broner and Garcia beats Vargas

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          • The Big Dunn
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            #35
            Originally posted by whirlout
            It's really not about who is posting. Am pretty good at ignoring idiotic posts that lacks obvious objectivity. I was just trying to get some perspective in this case and I appreciate you taking the time to lay out your points. If you look at it that way, I guess you can draw some parallels but these guys in my opinion, while they have the same belief, they lack the track record, the stats they can quote to justify their stance on how much they should be getting. Highly unlikely given the current welterweight landscape but I guess if either of them goes on to make 6,7,8 million in their next one or two fights, then I guess it would be genius, but if not, then probably a dumb business move, probably more on Broner's side than Garcia.
            Ok. I agree that Broner made a foolish decision. That said, he can't fight anyone and make more, same way , at the time, Manny couldn't fight anyone and make more. They do not IMO have to be on equal footing.

            The only way it makes sense for Broner is if HBO doesn't air the Manny/Vargas fight. if they do not, Manny is a network free agent. If he were to come to SHO, then Broner could get more. That is a long shot IMO.

            Broner, like Manny, has advisers around him. He surely didnt' make the decision on his own. I would have jumped at the chance because if he somehow won, he'd surely get Floyd next.

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            • The Big Dunn
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              #36
              Originally posted by WesternChamp
              when floyd made the $40 mil flat offer, pac had already fought, oscar, cotto and mosley. all three hit the $1mil mark for ppv buys. how you gonna bring up broner and danny and say its the same? LOL!! desperate much?
              What I posted was I said the same thing when Manny, just like Broner, made the decision to turn down the offer that would have paid him the most in his career. I didn't say it was exactly the same.

              What he sold and who he fought prior doesn't change that. Look man it isn't a Manny diss so stop having a fit.

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              • hectari
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                #37
                Originally posted by Boxfan83
                I find it funny how people crap all over Vargas for taking/wanting a fight with Manny. IMO Vargas beats Broner and vs Garcia its a 50/50 fight. Just because Vargas lost to Tim Bradley people want to **** all over him. Both Broner and Garcia would lose to Bradley the same way if not worse and they are/were more acclimated/established to/at WW than Vargas was when he took the fight with Bradley. Vargas is a solid fighter, tough chin with a nice 1-2. I hope Vargas makes these premaddona's say "damn, that coulda been me."
                Yeah, I dont get the Vargas hate, this guy keeps improving, he looked really good against SAdam Ali I never expected him to destroy Ali by ko like that, he is also a big dude 5 foot 10 and is filling out well at 147. Vargas will fight anyone.

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                • Boxfan83
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by hectari
                  Yeah, I dont get the Vargas hate, this guy keeps improving, he looked really good against SAdam Ali I never expected him to destroy Ali by ko like that, he is also a big dude 5 foot 10 and is filling out well at 147. Vargas will fight anyone.
                  Yeah man neither do I. I think its fanboy jealousy. Part of the problem with Vargas was he never had the right trainer, the guy would change trainers like he did his underwear. When he went with Morales, I think he found something and Cooper has ran with it and made him better. Losing to Tim Bradley at his first fight at WW is nothing to be ashamed of and almost getting a KO in dramatic fashion at the end is worth some note.

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                  • Jc8804
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                    #39
                    I think its simple

                    Put broner vs danny on ppv with
                    Spence vs berto on the undercard.

                    Lets see how those numbers play out

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                    • WesternChamp
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                      What I posted was I said the same thing when Manny, just like Broner, made the decision to turn down the offer that would have paid him the most in his career. I didn't say it was exactly the same.

                      What he sold and who he fought prior doesn't change that. Look man it isn't a Manny diss so stop having a fit.
                      here's the thing you dont wanna acknowledge.

                      when floyd offer pac the $40 mil flat fee,

                      pac had already hit the $1mil mark ppv numerous time.

                      how many times have broner hit the $1mil for him to be demanding the kind of money he is asking??

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