Comments Thread For: Berto Feels Broner, Garcia Made Mistake With Pacquiao Offer

[The Big Dunn]

"Maximize their exposure win or lose." Now that's pretty laughable. Are you comparing Pacquaio's exposure to these two who haven't even carried a PPV on their own once in their career. Obviously you have a right to post and express your views. I can respect that but you also have to be reasonable, my opinion, no disrespect. In light of what we know then, which is that both fighters weren't that much far apart status wise, if you want to nitpick, maybe 1 and 2 or some would say 1A and IB (which Broner or Gracia isn't even to the current Pacquaio) and especially what we know now where both fighters did in fact went on to make huge career paydays, not sure how taking $40 mil would have been a wise decision.

No, I am not. Floyd/Manny was predicted to outsell every PPV either had been in and be the biggest event in some time.

Broner is in similar situation, just not equal. Him being the opponent we expect will sell more than Vargas or Crawford. This does not mean it will sell like floyd/manny.

Broner, much like Manny, is making his decision based on the belief taking less is not a wise business move. I disagree with him same as I did with Manny's decision at the time.

Fast forward, Manny gets $100 mil and I post that I was completely wrong and he made the smart business decision. I see the same thing here, although I doubt Broner ever gets the fight. However, if he does and makes what he wants, he too will have made the right decision.

I think you saw my name and assumed my post as some kind of slight to Manny when it wasn't intended that way.

[hectari]

I am just pointing out that the points Berto made here are the same points I made regarding that deal. What's wrong with that?

The situations are comparable (just not identical) because in both cases the boxer turning the deal down was set to get their biggest payday in a fight that would maximize their exposure win or lose.

I don't see why you have an issue with my post.

Non comparable, pacquiao was a superstar and doing million ppv buys and well known, floyd was trying to low ball him, danny and broner have never headlined a ppv, are not household names, non comparable.

[Hands of Stone]

No, I am not. Floyd/Manny was predicted to outsell every PPV either had been in and be the biggest event in some time.

Broner is in similar situation, just not equal. Him being the opponent we expect will sell more than Vargas or Crawford. This does not mean it will sell like floyd/manny.

Broner, much like Manny, is making his decision based on the belief taking less is not a wise business move. I disagree with him same as I did with Manny's decision at the time.

Fast forward, Manny gets $100 mil and I post that I was completely wrong and he made the smart business decision. I see the same thing here, although I doubt Broner ever gets the fight. However, if he does and makes what he wants, he too will have made the right decision.

I think you saw my name and assumed my post as some kind of slight to Manny when it wasn't intended that way.

It's really not about who is posting. Am pretty good at ignoring idiotic posts that lacks obvious objectivity. I was just trying to get some perspective in this case and I appreciate you taking the time to lay out your points. If you look at it that way, I guess you can draw some parallels but these guys in my opinion, while they have the same belief, they lack the track record, the stats they can quote to justify their stance on how much they should be getting. Highly unlikely given the current welterweight landscape but I guess if either of them goes on to make 6,7,8 million in their next one or two fights, then I guess it would be genius, but if not, then probably a dumb business move, probably more on Broner's side than Garcia.

[WesternChamp]

Reasonable points by Berto. Take a little less than you want, still earn your biggest payday ever and go try and win and reap the benefits. Lose and you are not hurt.

This is the same thing I said about the $40 mil, no ppv offer.

gtfoh with that $40 mil flat fee. when floyd made that offer to pac, pac wasnt an up and comer. pac was already established. and didnt you said yourself that the $40 mill offer is bogus???? going back on your own words now huh.

[truefan]

Berto is right. You lose to Pacquaio, then you are expected to lose. No big deal. But if you lose to Porter, Thurman, or even Berto himself then it takes you back to square one. you can lose to Manny and look good and still get a title shot! So Broner made a dumb move. Danny knows that he would lose his title fighting Manny so I think career wise, he made the right choice.

[WesternChamp]

No, I am not. Floyd/Manny was predicted to outsell every PPV either had been in and be the biggest event in some time.

Broner is in similar situation, just not equal. Him being the opponent we expect will sell more than Vargas or Crawford. This does not mean it will sell like floyd/manny.

Broner, much like Manny, is making his decision based on the belief taking less is not a wise business move. I disagree with him same as I did with Manny's decision at the time.

Fast forward, Manny gets $100 mil and I post that I was completely wrong and he made the smart business decision. I see the same thing here, although I doubt Broner ever gets the fight. However, if he does and makes what he wants, he too will have made the right decision.

I think you saw my name and assumed my post as some kind of slight to Manny when it wasn't intended that way.

when floyd made the $40 mil flat offer, pac had already fought, oscar, cotto and mosley. all three hit the $1mil mark for ppv buys. how you gonna bring up broner and danny and say its the same? LOL!! desperate much?

[hectari]

gtfoh with that $40 mil flat fee. when floyd made that offer to pac, pac wasnt an up and comer. pac was already established. and didnt you said yourself that the $40 mill offer is bogus???? going back on your own words now huh.

Yeah that was a low ball offer, that floyd vs manny fight was not one sole person it was both of them. It wouldnt be big without each other, where broner and garcia are nobodies in the mainstream, plus pac is past his prime, its like when tyson was at the tail end he was only doing 200 thousand ppv buys, should his opponenets ask for more at that time when tyson was no longer the same draw he was in his peak? Broner and garcia priced themselves out they never headlined a ppv

[Boxfan83]

Not sure about Broner, but Garcia is probably holding out for the Mayweather payday. So it's probably a good idea not to get whooped by Pacquiao if there's still a remote possibility Mayweather returning. And fug it, Broner probably feels he also has a chance of landing Mayday.

I dont think Garcia will ever bring in the revenue needed to bring Floyd Mayweather out of retirement.

[brettWall]

Berto: "...but to fight a guy like Pacquiao and to make the most money of your career and a chance to shock the world."

Berto understands the value of the CHANCE to shock the world, which no amount of money can equal. I just wish Berto would also lash out at Jacobs, Eubank and others by being so chicken when it comes to fighting Golovkin.

[Boxfan83]

I find it funny how people crap all over Vargas for taking/wanting a fight with Manny. IMO Vargas beats Broner and vs Garcia its a 50/50 fight. Just because Vargas lost to Tim Bradley people want to **** all over him. Both Broner and Garcia would lose to Bradley the same way if not worse and they are/were more acclimated/established to/at WW than Vargas was when he took the fight with Bradley. Vargas is a solid fighter, tough chin with a nice 1-2. I hope Vargas makes these premaddona's say "damn, that coulda been me."