The Ward-haters are ******ed

[kafkod]

No. That's what you guys don't seem to understand. I don't bash Golovkin. I mock his hardcore fans, most of whom are poorly educated in the sport and behave like stains on this forum.

I understand very well that the reason you spend so much time "not bashing" GGG at this forum is that you don't like his fans. It's called trolling.

Another worthless post by Kf@g... Baffling that some here are too simple to understand that being objective is not "bashing". Only someone with the emotional development of a child couldn't understand the difference but, sadly, there's many of them here and they tend to treat it as their moral obligation to protect certain fighters.

Try giving honesty a chance. It feels great and helps keep you from looking a fool.

You can't post something like the above then lecture others on honesty and objectivity. It won't wash mate.

[kafkod]

What gets me is that this dumbass says anyone who thinks Kovalev or GGG would even have a chance at beating Ward makes them a "hater". Ward is the likely winner but he's not some unbeatable God plus Kovalev and GGG are very good fighters.

Trust me, Ward is not the likely winner against Kovalev. I think the only chance he has is a bent ref, like in the Kessler fight, and a technical decision after cutting Krusher with his head.

I'm pretty sure that Kovalev will take him out before he has a chance to start pulling his dirty tricks though.

[therealpugilist]

Golovkin doesn't have a poor resume. People saying that over and over again doesn't make it true.

He hasn't beaten another elite fighter, because none would fight him, but he's KO'd 7 top 10 rankers in the last 4 years, which is probably better than any other currently active fighter.

....dude literally has the worst resume ever of anyone considered top 3 p4p by many people


The middleweight division has changed a lot in the last 4 years. He has only defeated Lemieux out of the current top ten, and only won one belt in the ring. Also you are throwing stats without context. Those 7 "top 10 " contenders are a crop of some of the wholly average guys and many of them never beat a top ten contender themselves. Stevens never beat a legit top ten contender, nor did Murray who lost to every world ranked fighter he faced, Geale was legit, Proska was decent but who'd he really beat? Dont try to make it sound like middleweight is filled with talent like 112, 147, 175 when in actuality it is one of the thinnest talent wise and has been for sometime. Thats why the former champions have been guys from lower weights like Martinez, Cotto, and Canelo....160 is not talent rich.

the eye test means a lot when you are fighting GOOD opposition.

The most recognizable name on his resume will be a welterweight


top 3 p4p.....a finalist in many publications fighter of the year(never knew beat martin murray level guys meant so much...daaaa well)


you are beating a dead horse with that "they ducking doe" excuse...its was cool in 2013....its 2016 bro....if you really believe the only fighter willing to fight him was a welterweight, well you need to lay off the sauce

k2 make business decisions to maximize profits....higher purses, with low risks....bigger cut than crappy opponents...can pad his record until a big fight with Canelo or DeGale materializes


Mark my word...after Brook, he wont be fighting a top 5 middleweight...said it after the wade fight, and after the lemieux fight


you cant be considered the best in you division and you have eliminated the number 1 contender, the lineal champion or a couple top 5 guys


with GGG is all opinion based and not actually what he has done in the ring. He has a lot of talent but beating a dead horse and making excuses wont have him make the hall of fame nor be remembered as a great fighter

[Derranged]

Trust me, Ward is not the likely winner against Kovalev. I think the only chance he has is a bent ref, like in the Kessler fight, and a technical decision after cutting Krusher with his head.

I'm pretty sure that Kovalev will take him out before he has a chance to start pulling his dirty tricks though.

I disagree. Ward is too a good a boxer. Kovalev is sloppy at times, off balance and there to be hit. I don't think it will be easy for Ward and I wouldn't be surprised if he got rocked a few times. But I don't think Kovalev will land enough to win. Just my opinion.

[TheBoxingXpert]

Trust me, Ward is not the likely winner against Kovalev. I think the only chance he has is a bent ref, like in the Kessler fight, and a technical decision after cutting Krusher with his head.

I'm pretty sure that Kovalev will take him out before he has a chance to start pulling his dirty tricks though.

Kovalev is a heavier, but less rangy, stronger, but less skilled, version of Froch and Kessler.

Kovalev got very limited skills, which could clearly be seen in his last bunch of fights. The guy is clumpsy and got no defense.

[kafkod]

....dude literally has the worst resume ever of anyone considered top 3 p4p by many people


The middleweight division has changed a lot in the last 4 years. He has only defeated Lemieux out of the current top ten, and only won one belt in the ring. Also you are throwing stats without context. Those 7 "top 10 " contenders are a crop of some of the wholly average guys and many of them never beat a top ten contender themselves. Stevens never beat a legit top ten contender, nor did Murray who lost to every world ranked fighter he faced, Geale was legit, Proska was decent but who'd he really beat? Dont try to make it sound like middleweight is filled with talent like 112, 147, 175 when in actuality it is one of the thinnest talent wise and has been for sometime. Thats why the former champions have been guys from lower weights like Martinez, Cotto, and Canelo....160 is not talent rich.

the eye test means a lot when you are fighting GOOD opposition.

The most recognizable name on his resume will be a welterweight


top 3 p4p.....a finalist in many publications fighter of the year(never knew beat martin murray level guys meant so much...daaaa well)


you are beating a dead horse with that "they ducking doe" excuse...its was cool in 2013....its 2016 bro....if you really believe the only fighter willing to fight him was a welterweight, well you need to lay off the sauce

k2 make business decisions to maximize profits....higher purses, with low risks....bigger cut than crappy opponents...can pad his record until a big fight with Canelo or DeGale materializes


Mark my word...after Brook, he wont be fighting a top 5 middleweight...said it after the wade fight, and after the lemieux fight


you cant be considered the best in you division and you have eliminated the number 1 contender, the lineal champion or a couple top 5 guys

Here are the MW rankings as per Ring magazine.

1. Canelo, lineal champion. Handed over his WBC belt to avoid Golovkin.

2. The Man himself.

3. Daniel Jacobs. Won't fight Golovkin unless he is paid twice as much as GGG himself has ever earned for a fight.

4. Billy Joe Saunders. Same as Jacobs.

5. David Lemieux. KO'd by GGG last year.

Yes, it's a safe bet that GGG won't be fighting a top 5 MW next, now troll away, I'n sick of reading this shit over and over again.

[kafkod]

I disagree. Ward is too a good a boxer. Kovalev is sloppy at times, off balance and there to be hit. I don't think it will be easy for Ward and I wouldn't be surprised if he got rocked a few times. But I don't think Kovalev will land enough to win. Just my opinion.

Kovalev is rarely off balance. Though he may look off balance sometimes to US fans who don't understand what he is up to with the shifting moves he uses to close distance while punching at the same time.

He has only ever been sloppy defensively with Pascal and Chilemba, who are both difficult to hit - especially Chilemba - but lacking in power. Against both Kovalev knew he could risk taking shots in order to get through with his own, which he did.

Ward has even less power than Pascal and Chilemba. Krusher is quite capable of ignoring Ward's feints, walking right through his punches and nailing him, which is what I think he will do.

Don't be fooled by Kovalev's performance vs Chilemba. Nobody has ever decked that guy before and nobody has ever beaten him clearly on points. Chilemba's 2 defeats, to Alvarez and Bellew, and also his draw with Bellew, could all have gone either way. I think Chilemba is a tougher challenge than Ward at 175.

[TheBoxingXpert]

Kafkod, that you consider Chilemba to be a greater threat at 175lbs than Ward shows me that you seriously are an idiot.

[-PBP-]

Meh...be patient. Only a few more months of this.

[TheBoxingXpert]

Meh...be patient. Only a few more months of this.

Yeah, then the Ward-haters will be forced to STFU.