Comments Thread For: Hopkins on GGG-Brook: Time Will Reveal All The Frauds in Boxing

[joseph5620]

Okay pal just keeping take your L's when debating me and being mad at fans of GGG because he's better than your favorite fighter.

What a triggered fellow you are, I almost pity you lmao.

I'm not mad at anybody and not all Golovkin fans fall under your category lol. You're nothing more than an ignorant cheerleader.

But I do enjoy exposing liars and uninformed people like I did to you in this thread.


What else are you going to lie about?

[robertzimmerman]

Hopkins was willing to negotiate on weight to fight those JMW stars.

Golovkin promised he would, but then he changed his mind.

If Hopkins had "changed his mind", you would not be using him as an example.

Golovkin is unwilling to reach for greatness, like Hopkins did.

Why on earth did the guy who ran around for FOUR YEARS saying that he can "beat anyone from 154-168" totally refuse to negotiate on the weight with TWO SUPERSTARS like Cotto and Canelo?

He should have fought BOTH those guys.

I can, and will continue to, criticize Golovkin's resume.

* they could have negotiated on the weight with Canelo
* they could have offered BJS the 4mil they offered Brook, not 1.5mil
* they could have offered Jacobs more than " Quillin money "
* they could have asked Hearn for Degale, but they forgot
* they could have asked Bob for Ramirez, but they forgot
* they could have asked for Lara, but they forgot

You are dreaming if you think none of those fights could have been made..... they likely ALL could have been made...... Golovkin has the exact resume he SELECTED, so the excuses used to justify it are beyond absurd.

You guys need to grow up and hold a grown man responsible for his words/actions.

Another fantasy post.

You get an A for effort though.

GG is not unwilling to reach greatness.

You can judge him when he's retired. Bernard stayed at MW until he was 40, holding size advantages over most of his opponents, and then admitting in 2008 that he could have moved up years earlier had he have wanted to. And it was made worse by the fact that he's 6'1 with a 75" reach. Like I keep saying, we don't even know if Bernard would ever have moved up from MW had he been 5'10 with a 70" reach.

You say he could have negotiated weight for Canelo and Cotto. Ha! How many more times? They didn't want to fight him. Are you for real? As if Cotto would ever have fought him. Neither would Canelo. Oscar told everyone that they were dropping the belt to make negotiations easier. But they never even had any. They dropped the belt and went straight for Liam Smith. It wouldn't have made any difference if GG had've agreed to the 155. Oscar simply doesn't want the fight yet. You must be the only guy I've ever seen that thinks that GG could have negotiated with Cotto and Canelo for a fight. I know you hate GG but you need to sort yourself out. Nobody else believes both of those fights could have been made. Again, you're living in a fantasy.

Now I'll address the rest of your post:

BJS: He has said on numerous occasions that he doesn't think he can beat GG at this stage. However, he would take it for huge, life changing money. At the moment, he's lined up for a tune up because he hasn't fought since last year. Brook is getting a huge payday because his fight with GG is a huge PPV fight on Sky Sports Box Office. A fight against BJS wouldn't bring in the same money, because BJS is with Frank Warren on BoxNation and the fight wouldn't be as popular. If K2 were to offer a huge amount like what Brook's getting, they'd lose a lot of money. But I think that's the only way they'll get him in the ring, and they really need to fight him before Canelo does. Because if Canelo beats him first, Oscar will be just about impossible to deal with next year.

Jacobs: He's lined up to fight Mora in a rematch and he's said that ideally, he'd like to fight BJS first. He's said he can realistically see the fight happening within the next 12-18 months, but not at this moment. Yes, he could be offered big money. But where does it come from, and what would be satisfactory to him?

DeGale: Why would they have pursued him? GG has 3 belts, he's looking for the final one, and he said a few months ago that he's not going to move up to SMW until he's accomplished his MW goals. Then look from DeGale's perspective. Why would he want GG at this point? His goal is to get Badou Jack in the ring for a unification.

Ramirez: Another potential fight for the future. He's currently injured, and it doesn't make a lot of sense for them to fight at this stage of their careers. Like DeGale, hopefully these fights can happen within the next 2 years.

Lara: Why would they have pursued him? Does he even want the fight? He brings nothing to the table, and he's a Showtime fighter who I believe is under contract with them. He's not even a MW. And before you say neither is Brook, Brook was a last minute replacement for Eubank and it's a big fight financially. Lara brings nothing.

[robertzimmerman]

That was a masterpiece of a post.

Ha!

It's hardly surprising you think that after the nonsense you've posted.

A masterpiece?

Please!

Yeah, I'm sure he could have negotiated and made fights with Canelo and Cotto.

Meanwhile, back in the real world....

[Madison Boxing]

Another fantasy post.

You get an A for effort though.

GG is not unwilling to reach greatness.

You can judge him when he's retired. Bernard stayed at MW until he was 40, holding size advantages over most of his opponents, and then admitting in 2008 that he could have moved up years earlier had he have wanted to. And it was made worse by the fact that he's 6'1 with a 75" reach. Like I keep saying, we don't even know if Bernard would ever have moved up from MW had he been 5'10 with a 70" reach.

You say he could have negotiated weight for Canelo and Cotto. Ha! How many more times? They didn't want to fight him. Are you for real? As if Cotto would ever have fought him. Neither would Canelo. Oscar told everyone that they were dropping the belt to make negotiations easier. But they never even had any. They dropped the belt and went straight for Liam Smith. It wouldn't have made any difference if GG had've agreed to the 155. Oscar simply doesn't want the fight yet. You must be the only guy I've ever seen that thinks that GG could have negotiated with Cotto and Canelo for a fight. I know you hate GG but you need to sort yourself out. Nobody else believes both of those fights could have been made. Again, you're living in a fantasy.

Now I'll address the rest of your post:

BJS: He has said on numerous occasions that he doesn't think he can beat GG at this stage. However, he would take it for huge, life changing money. At the moment, he's lined up for a tune up because he hasn't fought since last year. Brook is getting a huge payday because his fight with GG is a huge PPV fight on Sky Sports Box Office. A fight against BJS wouldn't bring in the same money, because BJS is with Frank Warren on BoxNation and the fight wouldn't be as popular. If K2 were to offer a huge amount like what Brook's getting, they'd lose a lot of money. But I think that's the only way they'll get him in the ring, and they really need to fight him before Canelo does. Because if Canelo beats him first, Oscar will be just about impossible to deal with next year.

Jacobs: He's lined up to fight Mora in a rematch and he's said that ideally, he'd like to fight BJS first. He's said he can realistically see the fight happening within the next 12-18 months, but not at this moment. Yes, he could be offered big money. But where does it come from, and what would be satisfactory to him?

DeGale: Why would they have pursued him? GG has 3 belts, he's looking for the final one, and he said a few months ago that he's not going to move up to SMW until he's accomplished his MW goals. Then look from DeGale's perspective. Why would he want GG at this point? His goal is to get Badou Jack in the ring for a unification.

Ramirez: Another potential fight for the future. He's currently injured, and it doesn't make a lot of sense for them to fight at this stage of their careers. Like DeGale, hopefully these fights can happen within the next 2 years.

Lara: Why would they have pursued him? Does he even want the fight? He brings nothing to the table, and he's a Showtime fighter who I believe is under contract with them. He's not even a MW. And before you say neither is Brook, Brook was a last minute replacement for Eubank and it's a big fight financially. Lara brings nothing.

mate dont waste your time making logical points and arguments. It falls on deaf ears. These people can not be reasoned with. Its very clear that GGG didnt have any better options than brook for september, but they ignore that, when you ask them who he should have fought instead it goes silent. Then the same people pop up on the thread next day saying 'GGG shouldnt be fighting brook'. Its mindless hate.

[robertzimmerman]

mate dont waste your time making logical points and arguments. It falls on deaf ears. These people can not be reasoned with. Its very clear that GGG didnt have any better options than brook for september, but they ignore that, when you ask them who he should have fought instead it goes silent. Then the same people pop up on the thread next day saying 'GGG shouldnt be fighting brook'. Its mindless hate.

I know mate, I must be mad for trying to debate with them.

None of them want an actual debate.

They're not objective.

I agree it's pointless.

I can't help getting dragged in though.

[BlackSoul]

Well, that's obviously expected WhiteSoul

initially i thought calsaghe won but i rewatched the fight on MUTE with the sound off and rescored it without the commentators and had it 8-4 for B Hop

[aboutfkntime]

Another fantasy post.

You get an A for effort though.

GG is not unwilling to reach greatness.

You can judge him when he's retired. Bernard stayed at MW until he was 40, holding size advantages over most of his opponents, and then admitting in 2008 that he could have moved up years earlier had he have wanted to. And it was made worse by the fact that he's 6'1 with a 75" reach. Like I keep saying, we don't even know if Bernard would ever have moved up from MW had he been 5'10 with a 70" reach.

You say he could have negotiated weight for Canelo and Cotto. Ha! How many more times? They didn't want to fight him. Are you for real? As if Cotto would ever have fought him. Neither would Canelo. Oscar told everyone that they were dropping the belt to make negotiations easier. But they never even had any. They dropped the belt and went straight for Liam Smith. It wouldn't have made any difference if GG had've agreed to the 155. Oscar simply doesn't want the fight yet. You must be the only guy I've ever seen that thinks that GG could have negotiated with Cotto and Canelo for a fight. I know you hate GG but you need to sort yourself out. Nobody else believes both of those fights could have been made. Again, you're living in a fantasy.

Now I'll address the rest of your post:

BJS: He has said on numerous occasions that he doesn't think he can beat GG at this stage. However, he would take it for huge, life changing money. At the moment, he's lined up for a tune up because he hasn't fought since last year. Brook is getting a huge payday because his fight with GG is a huge PPV fight on Sky Sports Box Office. A fight against BJS wouldn't bring in the same money, because BJS is with Frank Warren on BoxNation and the fight wouldn't be as popular. If K2 were to offer a huge amount like what Brook's getting, they'd lose a lot of money. But I think that's the only way they'll get him in the ring, and they really need to fight him before Canelo does. Because if Canelo beats him first, Oscar will be just about impossible to deal with next year.

Jacobs: He's lined up to fight Mora in a rematch and he's said that ideally, he'd like to fight BJS first. He's said he can realistically see the fight happening within the next 12-18 months, but not at this moment. Yes, he could be offered big money. But where does it come from, and what would be satisfactory to him?

DeGale: Why would they have pursued him? GG has 3 belts, he's looking for the final one, and he said a few months ago that he's not going to move up to SMW until he's accomplished his MW goals. Then look from DeGale's perspective. Why would he want GG at this point? His goal is to get Badou Jack in the ring for a unification.

Ramirez: Another potential fight for the future. He's currently injured, and it doesn't make a lot of sense for them to fight at this stage of their careers. Like DeGale, hopefully these fights can happen within the next 2 years.

Lara: Why would they have pursued him? Does he even want the fight? He brings nothing to the table, and he's a Showtime fighter who I believe is under contract with them. He's not even a MW. And before you say neither is Brook, Brook was a last minute replacement for Eubank and it's a big fight financially. Lara brings nothing.

That post is 100% correct, AND YOU KNOW IT

Grow up, and stop making excuses to defend your loud-mouth girlfriend.

GGG is a manufactured fighter, who has the exact resume he wanted.

Boxing Historians will not feel sorry for him, and make childish excuses..... like you just did.

[aboutfkntime]

Time Will Reveal All The Frauds in Boxing.....

Hopkins knows this game inside out.....

..... it is highly amusing that some folks think they know better LMAO



Wow, who would have thought..... Mr "anyone from 154-168", really turned out to be Mr "nothing to see here folks".



Hopkins knows whats up.

[r1onnie2]

Why should we respect what he says?

How's he got the nerve to say that people claim they want to fight the best and then wind up doing something else, when he tried to convince everyone he wanted a rematch with Roy in 2002, before turning down $6m and then spending a year out of the ring before coming back to fight Morrade Hakkar?

You better check Hopkins track record, he has never ducked anyone or turned down any fight. He's fought Roy twice, Prime Jermaine Taylor 2, Trinadad, Dela Hoya, Pavlik, Tarver, Chad Dawson, Kovalev and the list goes on. So yeah he's earned the right to say what he wants. #TrueChampion

[GaryMSchneider]

Former world champion and Golden Boy Promotions executive Bernard Hopkins believes Gennady 'GGG' Golovkin is doing exactly what he criticized Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez for doing several months ago.
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