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  • Originally posted by animelive View Post
    It is not about wasting punches, it is about going for the kill which he doesn't do.



    What are you even talking about? MMA has a booming audience because of how entertaining it is. Sure some arts are more boring than others, but the versatility of MMA makes it quite full of suspense. Everyone has to have some idea in everything.

    I think you completely missed my point. I was saying how great Loma's footwork is but how he is completely different to Ward because he knows how to go for the kill. He isn't scared of lighting up his opponents completely. His footwork is topnotch but his offense is world class as well. Footwork isn't bad, it requires a lot of training and skill and I mean a lot. Footwork without sufficient attacking prowess is boring. End of the day, boxers have to entertain their crowds.



    I don't care how much ppv it does. I provided my analysis on why going ppv is a wrong decision for these fighters. I don't buy ppv's based on how many are bought. People buy them depending on how interesting the fight might turn out to be. GGG is a skilled fighter and if you disagree with that, you either never watched his fight, you are a shameless fanboy who is full of bias, or you are just pretty crap at understanding boxing. I will go with the second.
    Mma is ******, the boxing in it is pathetic, that's the bottom line. So I don't care about your thoughts on that tbh.

    Your analysis sucks and you have no clue about skill. If triple asswipe is so skilled, why didn't he do more to fight Ward? Why have all of his opponents been able to land punches on him with relative ease? Why is he scared to move up? There's much more talent at 168 but he acts like too much of a pu$$y to go there, all he and his people do is talk talk talk.

    If you knew enough about boxing, you would know that a hurt fighter is a more dangerous one and you must be cautious about going in for the kill. It doesn't matter anyway. Ward got the win, his 30th. It does matter how he got it. People like you think boxing is simply a sport that everyone should go for stoppages...that's a ****** and ignorant view of the sport. Ward will now fight Kovalev, and win or lose, he's daring, yet again to be great...golovkin SKILL f'n sucks though lol.

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    • Originally posted by kafkod View Post
      It would have been a bad deal to take because GGG would have been waiting for 18 months to hear Ward say: "Sorry li'l g, I can't wait make 168 any more"

      It was a bull**** offer for PR only. Ward never had any intention of fighting Golovkin. Now the moment of truth is approaching. Ward will either duck out of fighting Krusher or he well get KO'd. Tough choice to make.
      Lol whatever, you're the biggest moron on this site. What will you say if Ward wins? What if he completely schools Kovalev? I'd bet you sit at home and cry, too afraid to get back on here.

      Bad deal to take alright 50% isn't enough for Golovkin to get his a@@ beat lol...pu$$y that he is.

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      • Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
        that was last year doe

        he could have obviously made 168, he needed to lose another 3.5lbs

        but, lil'G chickened out..... or should I say..... his handlers - along with Golovkin himself - dropped their balls..... and turned the offer down in 36 minutes flat

        #maybe2017doe

        anyway, that was the 2nd time Ward approached Team Bull**** in 2015..... the first time Ward approached them in 2015 he was ready to fight IMMEDIATELY..... but Team Bull**** suddenly remembered that they needed a catchweight

        hey, whats wrong with the summer anyway..... it's not like lil'G will be doing anything important
        Ward just has said himself that he can't make 168 and he never offered to fight GGG immediately.

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        • Article from 2015

          Gennady Golovkin 33-0 (30 KO’s) is thought of by many, as boxing’s current Boogeyman.

          Terrorizing the middleweight division with ravaging punching power, demolishing all that lay in his path, some fighters are reluctant to face Golovkin.

          Golovkin reigns as the consensus king of the middleweight division with many fighters in the middleweight division and junior middleweight division supposedly fearful of facing his power.

          It may actually seem strange to think there would be an opponent Golovkin isn’t too keen on fighting.

          Enter Andre Ward 28-0 (15 KO’s).

          Ward in recent times, actually dating back to last year, has called out Golovkin and stated he would be willing to fight boxing’s boogeyman.

          For the hardcore boxing fan, this is a sensational match-up, pitting two decorated fighters with extensive amateur backgrounds (both fighters Olympic Medalists) and two fighters’ thus far, possessing prestige and status as undefeated, elite world champions.

          Golovkin’s trainer Abel Sanchez however has other plans. As reported by BoxingScene.com, Sanchez was quoted as saying, “[Ward] is not relevant.”

          Golovkin’s promoter Tom Loeffler echoed the same sentiment, seemingly dodging the possibly of matching his prized fighter against Ward.

          As reported by BoxingScene.com, Loeffler said, “Ward-Golovkin is not a realistic fight at this point.”

          “It just doesn’t make sense to fight Andre because he’s not that relevant. There’s no guarantee Golovkin fights at 168.”


          Maybe Sanchez and Loeffler are correct. Maybe Ward isn’t relevant enough for the likes of Golovkin.

          Ward is only the reigning super middleweight champion of the world, winner of the “Super Six” super middleweight tournament and undefeated as a professional fighter.

          Surely guys such as Willie Monroe Jr. and Martin Murray were more relevant fighters right?

          I’m certain Golovkin’s next opponent David Lemieux, is a much more popular figure and much more relevant than Ward right?

          https://********/H_u25yd998E

          Honest and accurate assessment from middleweight contender Gabriel Rosado courtesy of FightHype.com.

          Instead of a showdown with Ward, Team Golovkin is eying the winner of Miguel Cotto vs. Saul “Canelo” Alvarez. It’s a big money fight, who can blame them?

          Just like Team Golovkin desperately wants to fight Floyd Mayweather, because of the financial implications. Nothing wrong with that.

          With the Ward situation, it seems Gennady’s team is weighing out the risk vs. reward factor.

          The lack of criticism for pursuing riches (Cotto/Canelo/Mayeather) rather than the most challenging opponent (Ward) is convenient.

          When you’re an “Exciting fighter,” certain blemishes can be forgiven or overlooked.

          It’s fair to say Golovkin has faced limited opposition. Lost in the mix of it is the “Excitement Factor,” which is subjective.

          Although his recent string of knockouts and overall punching power is amazing, the list of competition leaves much to be desired.

          When you’re 33 years-old, a nine year veteran in the professional ranks and the most decorated and arguably best opponent faced thus far is Daniel Geale, that’s a problem.

          Especially if Golovkin is being heralded as one of boxing’s biggest stars and is thought of as a top five or top ten fighter across various pound for pound lists.

          With all of the criticism Danny Garcia faces, he virtually cleaned out the junior welterweight division and recently moved up to welterweight in search of bigger fights.

          Yet he can’t even crack the top ten pound for pound list, at least according to Ring Magazine.

          Despite the depth of his resume, because he appears to be out of favor with some boxing audiences his true value as a fighter and what he has accomplished thus far is undervalued.

          Golovkin’s next fight will be against the newly crowned IBF middleweight champion David Lemieux in a unification match.

          This is a match that will be Golovkin’s biggest test up to date and if triumphant, aims to face the winner of Cotto-Alvarez. With all indications of Golovkin-Ward being placed on the back burner; remember risk vs. reward.

          Many media outlets and various fans have dubbed Golovkin as “The most feared man” in boxing. Is it fair to say his handlers are fearful of what may happen if he ever fights Andre Ward?
          Last edited by Metho_4u; 08-07-2016, 11:43 PM.

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          • Originally posted by kafkod View Post
            Ward just has said himself that he can't make 168 and he never offered to fight GGG immediately.

            As PROVEN, on NUMEROUS occasions..... that is bull****.

            Why must something be proven on NUMEROUS occasions ?


            here we go, AGAIN.....


            But the REAL funny part is this...... even if Ward did want 1 fight before facing Golovkin - and he didn't because in July 2015 he was "ready to go NOW" - but even if he did, you insinuating that an offer to fight after each guy had an interim, is somehow unthinkable, absurd, and an absolute show-stopper..... is absolutely moronic, especially considering the following.....

            1) boxing has worked that way for decades, there are literally DOZENS of examples LMAO

            2) Tom "BS" Loeffler HIMSELF confirmed that..... "I work 2-3 fights ahead with Gennady, because I have to....."

            3) Main Events just gave Ward that exact same deal with Kovalev, only they gave him TWO interim bouts, not ONE..... and I don't hear them crying or looking for excuses

            4) Team Bull**** just fought Wade/Brook and according to certain circles they have been mentioning Bradley next..... so insinuating that Golovkin was otherwise engaged, and that he was somehow unable to fit Ward into his "busy" schedule, is laughable


            So, the " but he wanted a tuneup " excuse..... is not only an inaccurate excuse (in regards to the FIRST offer back in June/July 2015, not the 2nd offer in Sep/Aug 2015)..... it is also a childishly ridiculous excuse, because it makes no sense whatsoever and has been happening for decades.

            Team Golovkin could have simply fought Ward, if they really wanted to.

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            • Originally posted by Metho_4u View Post
              Article from 2015

              Gennady Golovkin 33-0 (30 KO’s) is thought of by many, as boxing’s current Boogeyman.

              Terrorizing the middleweight division with ravaging punching power, demolishing all that lay in his path, some fighters are reluctant to face Golovkin.

              Golovkin reigns as the consensus king of the middleweight division with many fighters in the middleweight division and junior middleweight division supposedly fearful of facing his power.

              It may actually seem strange to think there would be an opponent Golovkin isn’t too keen on fighting.

              Enter Andre Ward 28-0 (15 KO’s).

              Ward in recent times, actually dating back to last year, has called out Golovkin and stated he would be willing to fight boxing’s boogeyman.

              For the hardcore boxing fan, this is a sensational match-up, pitting two decorated fighters with extensive amateur backgrounds (both fighters Olympic Medalists) and two fighters’ thus far, possessing prestige and status as undefeated, elite world champions.

              Golovkin’s trainer Abel Sanchez however has other plans. As reported by BoxingScene.com, Sanchez was quoted as saying, “[Ward] is not relevant.”

              Golovkin’s promoter Tom Loeffler echoed the same sentiment, seemingly dodging the possibly of matching his prized fighter against Ward.

              As reported by BoxingScene.com, Loeffler said, “Ward-Golovkin is not a realistic fight at this point.”

              “It just doesn’t make sense to fight Andre because he’s not that relevant. There’s no guarantee Golovkin fights at 168.”


              Maybe Sanchez and Loeffler are correct. Maybe Ward isn’t relevant enough for the likes of Golovkin.

              Ward is only the reigning super middleweight champion of the world, winner of the “Super Six” super middleweight tournament and undefeated as a professional fighter.

              Surely guys such as Willie Monroe Jr. and Martin Murray were more relevant fighters right?

              I’m certain Golovkin’s next opponent David Lemieux, is a much more popular figure and much more relevant than Ward right?

              https://********/H_u25yd998E

              Honest and accurate assessment from middleweight contender Gabriel Rosado courtesy of FightHype.com.

              Instead of a showdown with Ward, Team Golovkin is eying the winner of Miguel Cotto vs. Saul “Canelo” Alvarez. It’s a big money fight, who can blame them?

              Just like Team Golovkin desperately wants to fight Floyd Mayweather, because of the financial implications. Nothing wrong with that.

              With the Ward situation, it seems Gennady’s team is weighing out the risk vs. reward factor.

              The lack of criticism for pursuing riches (Cotto/Canelo/Mayeather) rather than the most challenging opponent (Ward) is convenient.

              When you’re an “Exciting fighter,” certain blemishes can be forgiven or overlooked.

              It’s fair to say Golovkin has faced limited opposition. Lost in the mix of it is the “Excitement Factor,” which is subjective.

              Although his recent string of knockouts and overall punching power is amazing, the list of competition leaves much to be desired.

              When you’re 33 years-old, a nine year veteran in the professional ranks and the most decorated and arguably best opponent faced thus far is Daniel Geale, that’s a problem.

              Especially if Golovkin is being heralded as one of boxing’s biggest stars and is thought of as a top five or top ten fighter across various pound for pound lists.

              With all of the criticism Danny Garcia faces, he virtually cleaned out the junior welterweight division and recently moved up to welterweight in search of bigger fights.

              Yet he can’t even crack the top ten pound for pound list, at least according to Ring Magazine.

              Despite the depth of his resume, because he appears to be out of favor with some boxing audiences his true value as a fighter and what he has accomplished thus far is undervalued.

              Golovkin’s next fight will be against the newly crowned IBF middleweight champion David Lemieux in a unification match.

              This is a match that will be Golovkin’s biggest test up to date and if triumphant, aims to face the winner of Cotto-Alvarez. With all indications of Golovkin-Ward being placed on the back burner; remember risk vs. reward.

              Many media outlets and various fans have dubbed Golovkin as “The most feared man” in boxing. Is it fair to say his handlers are fearful of what may happen if he ever fights Andre Ward?

              GREAT post, but it gets worse.....

              ..... PLENTY of knowledgeable observers knew exactly what was happening back in 2015 when Team Golovkin firstly demanded a 164lb catchweight from Ward and then turned him down in "36 minutes flat".....


              "..... here’s the biggest reason Golovkin should avoid Ward for as long as possible: The 31-year-old American is a stylistic nightmare for him.

              Don’t get me wrong. You won’t find anyone in boxing as enamored with Golovkin’s toolbox as Kelsey McCarson. But Ward is just all kinds of wrong for Golovkin. Any critical-minded boxing person would tell you that.

              Need convincing?

              Ward is bigger than Golovkin. He has a longer reach (71 inches to 70). He’s faster, and with Floyd Mayweather retiring, he is probably the premier sweet scientist in boxing today.

              He’s in his prime and simply exceptional at what he does.

              Against Ward, even things Golovkin is great at, such as wrecking opponents in close, might fail him. Because if you want to watch the best infighter in boxing do his thing today, watch Ward.

              And no, it’s not that Golovkin would have no chance. He would. But look back at the long litany of great fights between pressure fighters and boxers in the past, and a pattern will emerge: Boxers almost always have the edge.

              Jack Dempsey vs. Gene Tunney. Muhammad Ali vs. Joe Frazier. Manny Pacquiao vs. Floyd Mayweather.

              There’s simply an inert stylistic advantage a fighter has when he’s not coming forward and making the fight, when he’s jabbing, moving, counterpunching and employing sound footwork with defense.

              All in all, Ward is just too great a risk for Golovkin right now. The fight just doesn't make sense no matter how good Golovkin looks right now.

              Golovkin's charge is clear. The menacing middleweight monster should be wary of jumping in such deep waters so soon and so far away from the comfort of his 160-pound shores.

              Because if he does, the 168-pound Ward just might drown him.

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              • Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
                As PROVEN, on NUMEROUS occasions..... that is bull****.

                Why must something be proven on NUMEROUS occasions ?


                here we go, AGAIN.....


                But the REAL funny part is this...... even if Ward did want 1 fight before facing Golovkin - and he didn't because in July 2015 he was "ready to go NOW" - but even if he did, you insinuating that an offer to fight after each guy had an interim, is somehow unthinkable, absurd, and an absolute show-stopper..... is absolutely moronic, especially considering the following.....

                1) boxing has worked that way for decades, there are literally DOZENS of examples LMAO

                2) Tom "BS" Loeffler HIMSELF confirmed that..... "I work 2-3 fights ahead with Gennady, because I have to....."

                3) Main Events just gave Ward that exact same deal with Kovalev, only they gave him TWO interim bouts, not ONE..... and I don't hear them crying or looking for excuses

                4) Team Bull**** just fought Wade/Brook and according to certain circles they have been mentioning Bradley next..... so insinuating that Golovkin was otherwise engaged, and that he was somehow unable to fit Ward into his "busy" schedule, is laughable


                So, the " but he wanted a tuneup " excuse..... is not only an inaccurate excuse (in regards to the FIRST offer back in June/July 2015, not the 2nd offer in Sep/Aug 2015)..... it is also a childishly ridiculous excuse, because it makes no sense whatsoever and has been happening for decades.

                Team Golovkin could have simply fought Ward, if they really wanted to.
                Ward NEVER offered to fight GGG immediately. Even Virgil Hunter stated that he would need at least a couple of tune-ups first.

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                • Originally posted by kafkod View Post
                  Ward NEVER offered to fight GGG immediately. Even Virgil Hunter stated that he would need at least a couple of tune-ups first.

                  YES, he did..... but, so what..... ?

                  ..... how is that even slightly relevant ?

                  Would that have caused you to miss out on Golovkin/Wade super-fight, or the Golovkin/Brook mega-fight? LMAO

                  have you no shame ?

                  how can you peddle those ridiculous excuses LMAO

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                  • andrea coWARD will get her vagina injured and pull out of the fight.

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                    • Originally posted by Metho_4u View Post
                      Mma is ******, the boxing in it is pathetic, that's the bottom line. So I don't care about your thoughts on that tbh.

                      Your analysis sucks and you have no clue about skill. If triple asswipe is so skilled, why didn't he do more to fight Ward? Why have all of his opponents been able to land punches on him with relative ease? Why is he scared to move up? There's much more talent at 168 but he acts like too much of a pu$$y to go there, all he and his people do is talk talk talk.

                      If you knew enough about boxing, you would know that a hurt fighter is a more dangerous one and you must be cautious about going in for the kill. It doesn't matter anyway. Ward got the win, his 30th. It does matter how he got it. People like you think boxing is simply a sport that everyone should go for stoppages...that's a ****** and ignorant view of the sport. Ward will now fight Kovalev, and win or lose, he's daring, yet again to be great...golovkin SKILL f'n sucks though lol.
                      Cry all you want, end of day mma fighters will whoop a boxer's ass in street fight. Why will he move up to 168 if there are no talent there? Are you ******?
                      Ward got his win against a 40 year old dude whose value is 30k by not stopping him. Your god will probably be the easiest to beat down by a mma fighter tbh. If golovkin sucks, how is kovalev any good? His resume is more or less the same if not worse than golovkin by your own albeit ****** biased standard? So if kovalev also "f,n" sucks, is Ward really daring to be great? Food for thought Moron.

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