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  • Originally posted by HI-TECH Boxing View Post
    I would understand this reply if I claimed robbery, like you do for almost every fight involving a Cuban, but there was a lot of people that agreed with me.
    The majority of people gave round 1 to Melikuziev. Round 2 was closer, but I saw more people slightly give it to Melikuziev, but it could have gone either way. Round 3 to Lopez.
    Close fight. I thought Bektemir did a little bit more, but no robbery. Fight got sloppy towards the end.
    Of course you are really predictable, so you probably thought Lopez dominated.
    Melikuziev did better than he did at Worlds. Bektemir knew more or less what he had to do since their first fight. In their first fight Lopez easily won the first two rounds, but Bektemir come on strong in the last. Bektemir basically tried to start this fight off like he ended the first one.
    Actually you're the one that is predictable scoring every close fight against the Cubans.

    Also no word from you about the gifts Uzbekistan and Russia got this tournament, let me ask you a question, where is the partiality?

    You yourself admit that Roniel should've won against Gyasov. My only other beef is Lazaro not getting the decision. I am pretty partial I think. I've listed 15robberies so far with Uzbekistan and Russia having the bulk of them. Where are you when these robberies occur? Is it because it involves mostly Uzbekistan and Russia, two countries you adamantly cheer for.

    Kazahstan and Cuba have once again shown the best and most beautiful boxing to watch.

    How about you mention the fact that 3 Uzbekistani boxers and 3 Russian boxers moved up to get medals because of corruption and bribery and guess what there was only one Cuban involved. I call this a very strong bias on your part.

    So yeah scoring the first 2 rounds for the Uzbek was a joke and the only reason he had a closer fight was because of his spoiling tactics aka rush in/jump in smother and hold. Still Arlen connected with the cleaner, harder shots time and time again.

    Melikuziev is a good fighter, him along Dusmatov and Zoirov are the better fighters on the Uzbek team and I have already stated that b/c they deserve the credit that they get, the rest of the Uzbek team is just meh.

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    • Originally posted by pesticid View Post
      Actually you're the one that is predictable scoring every close fight against the Cubans.
      That's completely false. You know how much I rate Cuban fighters. Wasn't I the one telling you how much I liked Lopez and Robeisy Ramirez especially Robeisy? You were actually the one that didn't seem too convinced about either of them. I remember you told me something like, "I know you like Robeisy, but I don't see it." You thought Frank Saldivar should get the spot over Robeisy.
      I told you that Rigo was in my top 5 favorite fighters of all time. You don't remember that?
      And you're saying that I'm biased against Cuban because I sometimes score close fights against them.
      So what does that make you because you always scream out robbery when a Cuban loses even if it's a close fight.

      Originally posted by pesticid View Post
      Also no word from you about the gifts Uzbekistan and Russia got this tournament, let me ask you a question, where is the partiality?
      I didn't defend any of the Russian (Tishchenko or Nikitin) victories did I?
      I'm actually happy Russia did bad that way they will hopefully give their real talent more opportunities next time. I doubt it because the Russian system is so messed up and they have their favorite even if it's guys like Tishchenko and Nikitin.

      Originally posted by pesticid View Post
      You yourself admit that Roniel should've won against Gyasov. My only other beef is Lazaro not getting the decision. I am pretty partial I think. I've listed 15robberies so far with Uzbekistan and Russia having the bulk of them. Where are you when these robberies occur? Is it because it involves mostly Uzbekistan and Russia, two countries you adamantly cheer for.
      I thought Roniel won for sure, but the argument was if it was a robbery and to that I say no. Roniel could have made it easier on himself. He let Giyasov get too into the fight. I had it 2-1 Iglesias, but I could see how they would score it for Giyasov.
      Russia had a few robberies, but I think you're exaggerating with Uzbekistan.
      List the robberies and I mean actual robberies no close fights that you gave to the other guy and claim it was a robbery.
      Again did you see me defend the Tishchenko or Nikitin wins?
      I wasn't able to comment for a few days of this competition. I also couldn't make the list I would usually make after every day of competition.

      Originally posted by pesticid View Post
      Kazahstan and Cuba have once again shown the best and most beautiful boxing to watch.
      Yeah, you're right about that. Uzbekistan should also be there though. You don't like Uzbekistan but two of their fighters are very strong contenders for the Val Barker trophy.

      Originally posted by pesticid View Post
      How about you mention the fact that 3 Uzbekistani boxers and 3 Russian boxers moved up to get medals because of corruption and bribery and guess what there was only one Cuban involved. I call this a very strong bias on your part.
      List the robberies Uzbekistan got. List them for me. Please.
      Just because I had Melikuziev winning the first rounds. I wasn't the only one you know? Everybody had it 2-1 either way. I preferred Melikuziev's work. I thought they were both connecting some good shots. I had it 2-1 Melikuziev, but I could see 2-1 Lopez. I didn't scream out robbery.
      The majority had round 1 to Bektemir. Round 3 for Lopez. Whoever you gave round 2 won the fight. And that round could have gone either way. Why is that so hard to believe?
      Did you see me say Bektemir got robbed? Had Lopez lost I bet you would be screaming out robbery.

      Originally posted by pesticid View Post
      So yeah scoring the first 2 rounds for the Uzbek was a joke and the only reason he had a closer fight was because of his spoiling tactics aka rush in/jump in smother and hold. Still Arlen connected with the cleaner, harder shots time and time again.
      It was a joke yet there was a lot of people that scored the first two rounds for Melikuziev. Most had it 1-1 or 2-0 for Bektemir after two.

      Originally posted by pesticid View Post
      Melikuziev is a good fighter, him along Dusmatov and Zoirov are the better fighters on the Uzbek team and I have already stated that b/c they deserve the credit that they get, the rest of the Uzbek team is just meh.
      Dusmatov and Zoirov are two strong contenders for the Val Barker trophy.
      I'm still cool with you man. We have some good conversations. Sometimes there are some disagreements, but that's normal.
      Melikuziev gets better after every tournament, so yeah Uzbekistan has really good boxers.

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      • Originally posted by HI-TECH Boxing View Post
        That's completely false. You know how much I rate Cuban fighters. Wasn't I the one telling you how much I liked Lopez and Robeisy Ramirez especially Robeisy? You were actually the one that didn't seem too convinced about either of them. I remember you told me something like, "I know you like Robeisy, but I don't see it." You thought Frank Saldivar should get the spot over Robeisy.
        I told you that Rigo was in my top 5 favorite fighters of all time. You don't remember that?
        And you're saying that I'm biased against Cuban because I sometimes score close fights against them.
        So what does that make you because you always scream out robbery when a Cuban loses even if it's a close fight.



        I didn't defend any of the Russian (Tishchenko or Nikitin) victories did I?
        I'm actually happy Russia did bad that way they will hopefully give their real talent more opportunities next time. I doubt it because the Russian system is so messed up and they have their favorite even if it's guys like Tishchenko and Nikitin.



        I thought Roniel won for sure, but the argument was if it was a robbery and to that I say no. Roniel could have made it easier on himself. He let Giyasov get too into the fight. I had it 2-1 Iglesias, but I could see how they would score it for Giyasov.
        Russia had a few robberies, but I think you're exaggerating with Uzbekistan.
        List the robberies and I mean actual robberies no close fights that you gave to the other guy and claim it was a robbery.
        Again did you see me defend the Tishchenko or Nikitin wins?
        I wasn't able to comment for a few days of this competition. I also couldn't make the list I would usually make after every day of competition.



        Yeah, you're right about that. Uzbekistan should also be there though. You don't like Uzbekistan but two of their fighters are very strong contenders for the Val Barker trophy.



        List the robberies Uzbekistan got. List them for me. Please.
        Just because I had Melikuziev winning the first rounds. I wasn't the only one you know? Everybody had it 2-1 either way. I preferred Melikuziev's work. I thought they were both connecting some good shots. I had it 2-1 Melikuziev, but I could see 2-1 Lopez. I didn't scream out robbery.
        The majority had round 1 to Bektemir. Round 3 for Lopez. Whoever you gave round 2 won the fight. And that round could have gone either way. Why is that so hard to believe?
        Did you see me say Bektemir got robbed? Had Lopez lost I bet you would be screaming out robbery.



        It was a joke yet there was a lot of people that scored the first two rounds for Melikuziev. Most had it 1-1 or 2-0 for Bektemir after two.



        Dusmatov and Zoirov are two strong contenders for the Val Barker trophy.
        I'm still cool with you man. We have some good conversations. Sometimes there are some disagreements, but that's normal.
        Melikuziev gets better after every tournament, so yeah Uzbekistan has really good boxers.
        Ok neither Robeisy nor Alren are my favourites but did they do good yes they did.

        Yasniel Toledo lost faire and square, Argilagos lost faire and square, Pero obviously faire and square. Savon faire and square. Did I scream robberies after these fighters lost? The only time I screamed robbery was when Roniel lost and when Lazaro lost. One lost to an Uzbekistani and the other one against a Brazilian, no big surprise there.

        Now as far as the robberies, I've already listed all of them, not only the ones involving Uzbekistan and Russia but if you want the robberies of these countries I'll list them again

        Russia:
        - Tishenko got dominated for 3 rounds against Levitt who should be the real Val Baker winner for real.
        - Aloyev got beat clearly by Avila from Columbia and he shouldn't even have gotten a bronze yet alone silver. Zoirov will surely embarrass him.
        - Nikitin lost badly to Conlan and I didn't see him fight with Budtee but I heard he got that gift too. So that might be 2 robberies for Nikitin

        Uzbekistan:
        - Roniel vs Gyason. Gyasov won the second round. Rounds 1 and 3 were clear round for Iglesias. Gyasov was spoiling, holding, clinching, etc.
        - Akmadaliev vs Yereliev - Akmadaliev lost all 3 rounds. I mean that was terrible. It was almost as bad as Nikitin vs Conlan
        - Finally Gaibnazarov vs Russell. I honestly dislike Rusell a lot and I thought he lost to the Thai fighter in the previous round. He beat up Gaibnazarov and I mean "beat up" for rounds 2 and 3. I didn't see the Dunaytev fight but I would suspect he had another gift there. Let's see if he'll beat Sotomayor via another gift. I don't think much of Sotomayor and how he beat Yasniel 3-0 is beyond me.

        So here you have it.

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        • I think Alimkunaly would've beaten Lopez again if he wasn't robbed against Kamran

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          • I still believe that two medalists in the 52 division are there by robing other fighters.

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            • Originally posted by yngwie View Post
              I still believe that two medalists in the 52 division are there by robing other fighters.
              Aloyev lost to Avila , who did Zoirov lose to?

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              • Originally posted by pesticid View Post
                Aloyev lost to Avila , who did Zoirov lose to?
                Nah, the Chinese guy.
                Zoirov got an argument for the Val Barker.

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                • Originally posted by yngwie View Post
                  Nah, the Chinese guy.
                  Zoirov got an argument for the Val Barker.
                  Robeisy should get it just not sure if they will give it to him.

                  Do they announce the barker trophy tmrw?

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                  • Originally posted by kidbazooka View Post
                    Robeisy should get it just not sure if they will give it to him.

                    Do they announce the barker trophy tmrw?
                    Robeisy is a solid contender too.
                    I believe they do, i don't know, sometimes the aiba do some good picks and some times their picks sucks.

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                    • Originally posted by yngwie View Post
                      Nah, the Chinese guy.
                      Zoirov got an argument for the Val Barker.
                      I don't get it, Aloyev lost to the Chinese guy too? oh ok, the Chinese guy getting he decision over veitia

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