Comments Thread For: Video: Virgil Hunter on GGG-Brook, Ward's Career, Crawford

[Ake-Dawg]

The size difference between Ward and Golovkin is greater than the size difference between Golovkin and Brook. Yet GGG is a coward because Brook moved up for him, and a coward because he didn't move up for Ward. Figure that out if you can.

Hunter was referring to Ward's current weight situation and not last year's when he was open to fighting at 168. At around minute 8 of the video Hunter says "at this point" as a lead in to talking about Ward's weight.

[kafkod]

I agree, Brook is a fkn warrior..... and lil'G is a shickken

Brook is being paid 3/4 times more than he's ever been paid in the past or has any real chance of being paid in the future, if he stays at WW. That wasn't the case with GGG/Ward in 2015.

I admire Brook and I'm probably going to end up rooting for him when he fights GGG. But I know that if Hearn had offered Kell the same money he was looking at for Vargas to move up for GGG, the fight wouldn't be happening.

[aboutfkntime]

He started the sentence with "at this point". Meaning that is the current situation. Thus your quote of "was" is slightly inaccurate.

There is absolutely no reason for a Ward Golovkin fight to be at anything less than 168. It's useless to expect any LHW to come down that far. Ultimately, you're exemplifying a point that many realize but refuse to acknowledge. Bigger boxers beat smaller punchers 9 times out of ten.

He wants Ward to lose 10lbs for Golovkin LMAO..... but I will give you 1 guess what he thinks of Mr "anyone from 154-168" losing 5lbs for Canelo?

[kafkod]

Hunter was referring to Ward's current weight situation and not last year's when he was open to fighting at 168. At around minute 8 of the video Hunter says "at this point" as a lead in to talking about Ward's weight.

The offer Ward sent to GGG was for a fight this year doe.

[Ake-Dawg]

He wants Ward to lose 10lbs for Golovkin LMAO..... but I will give you 1 guess what he thinks of Mr "anyone from 154-168" losing 5lbs for Canelo?

Ultimately, when it comes to weight, a lot of them only think of the weight which gives Golovkin the best chance to win. With the least amount of risk.

[kafkod]

He wants Ward to lose 10lbs for Golovkin LMAO..... but I will give you 1 guess what he thinks of Mr "anyone from 154-168" losing 5lbs for Canelo?

What you on about? I never said Ward should have fought GGG at a catchweight.

GGG vs Canelo has already been done to death, by you, me, and everybody else with an interest in it, so I'm not even going to go there again.

[Ake-Dawg]

The offer Ward sent to GGG was for a fight this year doe.

Right. But common sense says that if you have a fight scheduled at 168, you don't prepare by campaigning at 175. Ward make a deliberate decision to move to 175. Thus the added weight. Hunter discussed this in an interview last November.

[aboutfkntime]

What you on about? I never said Ward should have fought GGG at a catchweight.

GGG vs Canelo has already been done to death, by you, me, and everybody else with an interest in it, so I'm not even going to go there again.

He wasn't replying to you.

[MDPopescu]

Ward's comeback fight in 2015 was at a contracted weight of 170lb... and not at 168 -- where Paul Smith was actually fighting...
Now figure out why by yourselves...

[j0zef]

Ward's comeback fight in 2015 was at a contracted weight of 170lb... and not at 168 -- where Paul Smith was actually fighting...
Now figure out why by yourselves...

*172 lbs.
And even though Smith was fighting at 168 before, he also fought higher than that previously, and he came in overweight into that fight. I would guess both fighters wanted it to be above 168.

Ward was inactive for 2 years.. when you're not fighting, the training is not the same. You do a little more weights, a little less cardio, and lo and behold you're dealing with extra 5 lbs of muscle. You could see the changes in Ward during the Barrera fight. He definitely moved a lot less, and he talked about it.. how when fighters age they learn to do more with less.

If I had to bet, I'd guess Ward could have made 168 in 2015. But it would not have been pleasant or easy.