If Pac beats Vargas....do you place him above May in the TBE race?

[Mr.Fantastic]

SO they are voting for Floyd ahead of Manny to get hits, yet you think Manny is the more popular fighter, which means they should be voting Manny for that reason, not Floyd. LMFAO!

My point is Floyd hasn't lost , which could be be one of the reasons why the witers/journalists/historians rank him ahead of Manny. Of course Pac did, so did Floyd.

You are not praising him. you have him up because he is critical of *** and he goes on TV to support Trump. It's your way of supporting your political beliefs without drawing fire because a lot of people don't know the Sheriff in Milwaukee. GTFOH.

The bottom line is whenever there is a vote on the ATG list Floyd finishes ahead of Manny, same way Leonard finishes ahead of Floyd.

Calzaghe didn't lose either. He took calculated risks just like Floyd. Pac has the better resume and it's pretty obvious to why.

I am praising him. I praise good people if they have the common sense to do so and make this world a better place. I think both Trump and Clinton are full of shit but I'll take Trump over Clinton. I'll pick the smarter, harder working, and blunt.

*** is racist and promotes hate. I know there is good people on there and I have no hate towards them but most just want a handout and cry about shit when they're not crying about the real problem....black on black crime. I praise smart black people, not idiots.

Floyd has Manny, who in your opinion and the opinion of almost everyone is better then all of them.

Just sayin.

He beat him sure but he didn't fight him when it truly mattered. Most of the time when a boxer picks money, it takes a hit to their legacy. How often do we see true greats fighting in their prime compared to back in the days? That's what $$$ does and boxers and promoters are going to keep milking away. As a fan, I'm tired of that shit.

[Larry the boss]

Leonard beat Duran too and many consider Duran as greater.

Please tell me how Floyd's resume and accomplishments are better than Pac's?

well Duran did beat Leonard as well tho

[Brickyardigan]

I do, Jesse Vargas is the best opponent available

[MASTERBX]

LOL! How did i miss this one.

[travestyny]

Pac has the better resume and it's pretty obvious to why. He beat him sure but he didn't fight him when it truly mattered.

Calling BS here. Find me any boxer, retired or active, creditable boxing publication, boxing website, or boxing historian that ranks Pac higher than Mayweather, and for each one I'll find two more at least that rank Mayweather higher. And tell me which one was the cause of them not fighting when it truly mattered? You're going to be hard-pressed to win that argument if you think it was Floyd when Pacquiao's own trainer has gone on record saying it was their side's fault.

*** is racist and promotes hate. I know there is good people on there and I have no hate towards them but most just want a handout and cry about shit when they're not crying about the real problem....black on black crime. I praise smart black people, not idiots.

Please explain. Why is it racist to protest unnecessary homicides, especially by those who are sworn to PROTECT AND SERVE, not to MURDER AND HARASS? How does the *** movement in anyway equate to people asking for handouts? Is protesting against police brutality somehow equivalent to ignoring other problems? How does any of this make any sense to you? It's like you're saying they have no right to protest against police brutality because there is black on black crime. Does that make any sense at all?????

[Mike D]

Absolutely. What kind of ****** ass question is this. Vargas is definitely current top 5 P4P, and you can make a case to bring him as high as #2.

He's also a first ballot HOFer and ATG so if Pac can manage to dethrone Jesse, then of course he would rise above Floyd in the TBE race.

But this is Jesse Vargas we're talking about so all this what if **** is pretty damn ****** because Jesse is a heavy favorite for a reason and will probably win something 118-110 on fight night.

[Mike D]

war jeffrey vargas

[Mr.Fantastic]

Calling BS here. Find me any boxer, retired or active, creditable boxing publication, boxing website, or boxing historian that ranks Pac higher than Mayweather, and for each one I'll find two more at least that rank Mayweather higher. And tell me which one was the cause of them not fighting when it truly mattered? You're going to be hard-pressed to win that argument if you think it was Floyd when Pacquiao's own trainer has gone on record saying it was their side's fault.




Please explain. Why is it racist to protest unnecessary homicides, especially by those who are sworn to PROTECT AND SERVE, not to MURDER AND HARASS? How does the *** movement in anyway equate to people asking for handouts? Is protesting against police brutality somehow equivalent to ignoring other problems? How does any of this make any sense to you? It's like you're saying they have no right to protest against police brutality because there is black on black crime. Does that make any sense at all?????

You do it, I'm not going to do the work for you. I've been debating how jacked up a lot of these publications put guys over others. Like Duran over Leonard.


Unnecessary? One of the motherfuckers had a gun, pointed a gun, and deserved what he got. It's really a projection for dudes to act a fool. You guys don't cry for the real reason and that's black on black crime. It makes perfect sense. I've been a victim of police bull**** and racism, I know how it feels. I grew up in Georgia to know that. Just because I had that happen, I'm not going to blame the whole police force. That is what people like you are doing. Don't like cops? Best thing to do is don't cause trouble and resist. It's not even rocket science kid.

[travestyny]

You do it, I'm not going to do the work for you. I've been debating how jacked up a lot of these publications put guys over others. Like Duran over Leonard.


Unnecessary? One of the motherfuckers had a gun, pointed a gun, and deserved what he got. It's really a projection for dudes to act a fool. You guys don't cry for the real reason and that's black on black crime. It makes perfect sense. I've been a victim of police bull**** and racism, I know how it feels. I grew up in Georgia to know that. Just because I had that happen, I'm not going to blame the whole police force. That is what people like you are doing. Don't like cops? Best thing to do is don't cause trouble and resist. It's not even rocket science kid.

So the dude who was shot with his girlfriend and her kid in the car caused trouble and resisted arrest? You need to review the video again.

Are you running around telling whites to worry about the 83% white on white crime that happens in America? I didn't think so.

Here's a newsflash for you: just because someone protests against police brutality does not mean they don't care about crime. How are the two mutually exclusive???

When someone commits a crime, they are arrested, taken to court, and sentenced.


Now tell me..what happens when a police officer wrongly kills someone with an illegal chokehold? Were Eric Garner's murderers indicted? Were they arrested? How about other cops who wrongly murdered black men. That's why there are protests! Now THIS isn't rocket science.

[Mr.Fantastic]

So the dude who was shot with his girlfriend and her kid in the car caused trouble and resisted arrest? You need to review the video again.

Are you running around telling whites to worry about the 83% white on white crime that happens in America? I didn't think so.

Here's a newsflash for you: just because someone protests against police brutality does not mean they don't care about crime. How are the two mutually exclusive???

When someone commits a crime, they are arrested, taken to court, and sentenced.


Now tell me..what happens when a police officer wrongly kills someone with an illegal chokehold? Were Eric Garner's murderers indicted? Were they arrested? How about other cops who wrongly murdered black men. That's why there are protests! Now THIS isn't rocket science.

If you look at my post history, you'll see that I didn't think that one was right. However I'm just going by what the video showed and they were smoking weed prior to that with the kid inside the car.

I don't need to go running around. They know that, just like black people know about their black on black crime.

Eric Garner resisted arrest. If he would of complied with the instructions, he wouldn't of died. He was telling the cops to leave lol. It doesn't work that way.

Cops have wrongfully killed other races, not just black men but black men kill each other for the smallest of shits. You guys along with other **********, kill each other for a piece of land that doesn't even belong to them in the first place. It's to sell drugs and innocent people are in the middle of their greed cause they don't want to work and make easy money.

Cops go into the face of danger in rough neighborhoods every day and people like you expect them to take people teddy bears. FOH!