Is Carl Frampton in your top ten P4P?

[SeekDaGreat]

I'm just trying to explain, Santa Cruz winning his first belt 4lbs below Frampton doesn't mean he's now smaller. Tons of counterexamples. T

Are you serious? Cotto lunged all night, he could barely get leverage on his punches, and wouldn't stay in range of the longer, much heavier guy. Even when he got through with something, the much bigger Canelo shrugged it off. It's much easier countering when you got no fear of the incoming.

There was never a point in Cotto's career, where Canelo existed, that he could hurt Canelo. One simply does not hurt Canelo. He hasn't been seriously hurt in over 5 years and Cotto doesn't have the power to make it happen again, and he never could. Canelo could have came in the fight 10lbs lighter and it wouldn't have mattered. Sorry.

[JmH Reborn]

Frampton has one of the best wins of all those currently in the top 10 - so yeah. He's also coming off of beating Quigg. I think he deserves it.

[Cheek busting]

I think he should be about #9 or #10.

What do you think?

Absolutely. I got him somewhere between 8-10.

Goes something like this: 1.) Roman Gonzalez; 2.) Kovalev; 3.) Ward; 4.) GGG; 5.) Pacquiao; 6.) Tyson Fury; 7.) Crawford; 8.) Rigo; 9.) Frampton; 10.) Thurman

[Mexican_Puppet]

It's the same deal, both Donaire and Cruz were giant at 112 and 118, main difference is that Donaire actually stayed there and dominated, and Cruz won a vacant belt and moved up quick having outgrown the division

But that's a dumb point cause it's easier to box someone who can barely reach or hurt you, with your big size advantage. Come back when Canelo beats someone of Cottos caliber, or anyone at all, while conceding that much weight.

God, it's not easy box with more height, are you crazy? Floyd schooled Canelo cuz he was a better boxer, Cotto is not.

And another difference, Donaire in 122 rehydrate to 138 pounds in the Rigo fight, Leo in 126 rehydrate to 132 or 133. Leo just have reach and height, but he is not a heavy fighter. Buy a new pair of eyes, Leo looks like a worm.

[Mexican_Puppet]

Absolutely. I got him somewhere between 8-10.

Goes something like this: 1.) Roman Gonzalez; 2.) Kovalev; 3.) Ward; 4.) GGG; 5.) Pacquiao; 6.) Tyson Fury; 7.) Crawford; 8.) Rigo; 9.) Frampton; 10.) Thurman

And Lomachenko? He is better than Frampton, and Estrada? He is better than Frampton too, and Estrada defeated Viloria(TOP-10 or 15 at the moment and a better boxer than Leo), and he has 2 belts in his division, he gave a super fight to the #1 pound x pound, when he had 22 years old and fighting in 108 pounds, with physical disadvantages.

No way Frampton deserve at place in the top-ten lxl.

And Rigo in the #8 hahaha

[Dodger07]

Canelo? HAHAHAA.

And Pacquiao? He still in the game, he is fighting in november.

And Estrada? He make an awesome fight vs Roman Gonzalez in 108 pounds(he was 122). He beat Viloria in his prime, and Viloria is a better boxer than Santa Cruz, Viloria beat Donaire in amateur.

canelo is scared of ggg and should be ranked behind him, but he is good enough to be on this list. he's top fighter and has wins over lara, trout, and cotto.

if pacquiao does come back, he'd be top 5 pound for pound fighter.

i agree that gallo is a quality fighter, i think he is somewhere around 8-12 along with guys like bradley and frampton. you can change any of them around in my opinion

[HeroBando]

God, it's not easy box with more height, are you crazy? Floyd schooled Canelo cuz he was a better boxer, Cotto is not.

And another difference, Donaire in 122 rehydrate to 138 pounds in the Rigo fight, Leo in 126 rehydrate to 132 or 133. Leo just have reach and height, but he is not a heavy fighter. Buy a new pair of eyes, Leo looks like a worm.

If Floyd had 15lbs on Canelo it would have been much more of a mismatch than it was. Are you seriously claiming size is no advantage in boxing?

I see you're making up more numbers. Donaire fight night weight was not available for that fight, just like you made up numbers for the Frampton fight. Go ahead and make a poll, who was heavier fight night, Frampton or Santa Cruz

[Dodger07]

Juicy minge GTFOH .....in your top 10 u have the Kazakh ducked not included and yet you include the ginger ducker .....lost all credibility minge

Chocolatito
Kovalev
Ward
Crawford
Ggg
Loma
Rigo
Canelo
Bradley
Frampton

Juicy minge but I DID include golovkin in my list, even ranked him ahead of canelo

[soul_survivor]

Chocolatito
Kovalev
Ward
Crawford
Ggg
Loma
Rigo
Canelo
Bradley
Frampton

Juicy minge but I DID include golovkin in my list, even ranked him ahead of canelo

Ward and Loma don't deserve to be on that list and Crawford can't be higher than Bradley who has spent almost a decade beating world level operators.

The rest of the list is pretty good although I'd probably change the order and most definitely have Wlad and Fury on there, how they're not is beyond me.

[Mexican_Puppet]

If Floyd had 15lbs on Canelo it would have been much more of a mismatch than it was. Are you seriously claiming size is no advantage in boxing?

I see you're making up more numbers. Donaire fight night weight was not available for that fight, just like you made up numbers for the Frampton fight. Go ahead and make a poll, who was heavier fight night, Frampton or Santa Cruz

Nope, more weight = less speed, and Floyd needs speed.

The weight it's advantage when you are a fighter like Salido, Chavez Jr, Maidana, Lucas, Gonzalez.