Terence Crawford PPV numbers

[Kigali]

Just say he's black you coward

[SilverMiles]

HBO spends 25 percent of it's budget on Golovkin cherry picks.

You spend 99% of your life *****ing about GGG and the other 1% crying every time GGG wins.

[brettWall]

Don't know how much Arum lost in this fight, but HBO definitely lost numbers in the ratings. And I don't know how you can translate that in terms of money, but I always regard their boxing department like some kind of bonus to their subscribers, or like some non-profit local news for public service, anyways.

Fighters didn't lose anything. They have their guarantees regardless of the ppv outcome.

[CaneloMaidana]

You spend 99% of your life *****ing about GGG and the other 1% crying every time GGG wins.

And you spend your whole life protecting Golovkin and cheering him knocking out bums.

[MASTERBX]

A strong case can be made that lil g has ruined HBO boxing. They invest most of their boxing budget in lil g but he will never be a PPV star because he is a coward. 97k is no different from 77k. But HBO'S ROI is where lil g is killing HBO boxing.

[CaneloMaidana]

A strong case can be made that lil g has ruined HBO boxing. They invest most of their boxing budget in lil g but he will never be a PPV star because he is a coward. 97k is no different from 77k. But HBO'S ROI is where lil g is killing HBO boxing.

Yeah Golovkin has normalized coward behavior. Before him we didn't see 100 to 1 rematches as main event on HBO. Maybe you would get a prospect mismatch as undercard but 2.5 million for 150 to 1 mismatches is his legacy.

[Jubei]

Damn is Crawford being called "Fifty" now? Or Mr 50k?

[M Bison]

Damn is Crawford being called "Fifty" now? Or Mr 50k?

Don't tempt me lol.

I don't think you could ever call an event that needed 75k buys to break even as having "flopped badly". Pacquiao vs Bradley III flopped badly for TR. Supposedly Arum lost $10M on that fight as rumored by Steve Kim who seems to have a solid relationship with TR.

I'm all for ****ting on Arum when he deserves it as I believe he's a piece of ****, BUT people need to realize that HBO wasn't putting Crawford vs Postol on regular HBO in 2016 so we are waiting for this fight til sometime in 2017 if Arum hadn't invested in Crawford's future with this fight. If Arum lost a mill or two on this fight he'll surely parlay that into money further down the line after TC's impressive performance.

Now if this fight would have did 100k buys & Arum made money, but TC had lost I'd say that woulda been a bigger flop then if it did 50k & TC won.

Okay, maybe financial sense it's okay If they get a certain number like 75k but still wouldn't you consider for a top American name who has won gold in two divisions to be selling a lot more?

As I said earlier on Crawford wasn't making a massive paycheque in comparison to previous payments he's had I think he made roughly the same for fighting Postol as he did for fighting Dulorme?
I think from a selling point of making Terence a PPV star the 50k numbers IF true is a bit of a flop with the performance not really getting a lot of people hyped or excited.

[Eff Pandas]

Okay, maybe financial sense it's okay If they get a certain number like 75k but still wouldn't you consider for a top American name who has won gold in two divisions to be selling a lot more?

Not necessarily. Its all relative.

To me & 99% of boxing hardcore fans this fight "didn't feel like a PPV fight". That alone says everything right there cuz Crawford & Postol were the top 2 guys in the division. And that all lines up with the fact that if HBO had a bigger budget this fight would have happened on regular HBO instead of being forced to HBO.

Its like the GGG vs Lemeiux fight in that regard. K2 coulda waited til the next year to put that fight on regular HBO or they had to make it a PPV. So the real problem with all of this isn't that Crawford can't be a worthwhile PPV draw at some point its that regular HBO's budget isn't conducive to making the top tier notable regular HBO caliber fights in a timely fashion. Thats the real issue.

As I said earlier on Crawford wasn't making a massive paycheque in comparison to previous payments he's had I think he made roughly the same for fighting Postol as he did for fighting Dulorme?

I'm sure there was an upside for this PPV that'd have earned him much more. Obviously TR didn't spend much to promote it to keep the expenses down (which was good for both fighters & TR arguably cuz the more TR spends on marketing the more PPV's they'd have needed for TC or Postol to see money most likely) & TC & Postol did lil in the media to bring in more than the hardest of the hardcore fans so that went nowhere, but I'm positive that opportunity was there.

I think from a selling point of making Terence a PPV star the 50k numbers IF true is a bit of a flop with the performance not really getting a lot of people hyped or excited.

Well yea 50k PPV's isn't going to get anyone excited & I got serious questions about Crawford's chin + ability to be a PPV caliber guy any damn way so you're preaching to the choir with a lot of this, but again for me this wasn't a great situation TR & Crawford were in in the first place. I'd argue to some extent this was a lose lose situation cuz obviously everyone is talking about the bad PPV numbers today & if they don't do a PPV Crawford would have likely fought some random contender on July 23 on regular HBO instead of Postol. I mean the only W is the W Crawford in the ring that is still an impressive name for his resume if not the best name (surely at worst its the 2nd best name) so TR took a L on this night to get a bigger W in the future as Crawford's trajectory moves up a lil with the performance even if virtually no one purchased the fight.

[Larry the boss]

Didnt expect it to sell well..should not have been on PPV