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  • M Bison
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    #31
    Originally posted by LacedUp
    I don't think Frampton beats GRJr or Lomachenko obviously, if he would fight there again.

    Selby maybe.
    True I do think GRjr is a damn dangerous fighter you could compare him to Leo Santa Cruz couldn't you but with a more frantic ferocious speed to him that and he has more power in those hands.

    There is always the chance that what Loma did to Russell that Carl could do the same.

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    • Tom Cruise
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      #32
      Originally posted by 285Kid
      Why do people keep thinking winning the green belt make you a lineal champion?

      At Heavyweight right now, no green belt


      at 122 no green belt


      at 135 the last champion did not had a green belt
      I dont. If you saw my edit, i said it was just a mistake as i thought Mares had picked up the lineal championship at some point. He hadnt. Russell isnt lineal. Its all good

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      • LacedUp
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        #33
        Originally posted by Son Of Fraud
        True I do think GRjr is a damn dangerous fighter you could compare him to Leo Santa Cruz couldn't you but with a more frantic ferocious speed to him that and he has more power in those hands.

        There is always the chance that what Loma did to Russell that Carl could do the same.
        I think Russell Jr is on another level to LSC. I think he does everything better + is 5 times as fast doing it.

        But he's also smaller I think so that would be a difference.

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        • Chrismart
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          #34
          I'd take Frampton over Selby. But could see him losing to Russel Jr.

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            #35
            Selby is junk. GRJ has a good shot though.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Tom Cruise
              I think he beats Selby but comes up a little short vs the much improved GRjnr.

              Russels speed and explosiveness could cause Frampton a lot of issues because he leaves himself open defensively. Especially later in fights

              Selby i just have never rated that highly. He proved me wrong in the Gradovic fight, but since then he has looked more like the fighter i thought he was. Frampton just a bit more quality all round, though, without looking up stats, Selby looks the bigger man
              This...

              I think Russell really learned a lot from the Loma schooling.

              Frampton wins about every round against Selby - just better in every aspect.

              But Russell is too fast, and explosive. I think he wins a fairly clear UD, and would probably stop him, but Frampton showed last night he's got a pretty sturdy chin.

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                #37
                I would want to see those fights, if he beats both shows how special Loma is.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by LacedUp
                  I think Russell Jr is on another level to LSC. I think he does everything better + is 5 times as fast doing it.

                  But he's also smaller I think so that would be a difference.
                  Russel Jr relies on his speed too much. Frampton feints will bamboozle him the same way Loma did but Carl will be stepping in with power, not to mention Carl's jab WILL be a factor offensively and defensively. Russell Jr has that equalizer as well but Carl has to be the favorite.

                  I like Selby, he fights like Broner..... but Carl will wreck him.

                  Get him Rigo! Force Carl to fight him.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by LacedUp
                    I think Russell Jr is on another level to LSC. I think he does everything better + is 5 times as fast doing it.

                    But he's also smaller I think so that would be a difference.
                    Russell's little T-rex arms actually make Frampton look like a long-armed, rangy featherweight.

                    I think he really does suffer from a very mild case of Dwarfism...

                    But yeah - I agree with him being on another level - he's probably too much for Frampton.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Son Of Fraud
                      I think Carl has earned himself If he fights once more this year someone who isn't as dangerous as Russell Jr.
                      That's exactly what I expected to hear and to happen. None of these guys are going to want to fight GRJ, he's the most difficult opponent in the division now that Lomachenko has moved to 130.

                      They will mix and match with each other but try to freeze Russell out if they can.

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