Frampton vs Selby/Russel Jnr

[M Bison]

That's exactly what I expected to hear and to happen. None of these guys are going to want to fight GRJ, he's the most difficult opponent in the division now that Lomachenko has moved to 130.

They will mix and match with each other but try to freeze Russell out if they can.

Nah I just think its unfair on Frampton who has fought big fighters in the past two fights this year Quigg a big hitter in Manchester, England then Leo Santa Cruz in Texas.

Who has Russell Jr fought this year?
I think Russell Jr should be fought but I think Frampton right now deserves a domestic clash which would be a big PPV fight If he got say Selby or Warrington and If he prevails with that fight in 2017 he should target Russell, Rigo or Lomachenko.

[Cheek busting]

Nah I just think its unfair on Frampton who has fought big fighters in the past two fights this year Quigg a big hitter in Manchester, England then Leo Santa Cruz in Texas.

Who has Russell Jr fought this year?
I think Russell Jr should be fought but I think Frampton right now deserves a domestic clash which would be a big PPV fight If he got say Selby or Warrington and If he prevails with that fight in 2017 he should target Russell, Rigo or Lomachenko.

I agree. I think it's pretty much guaranteed he fights Selby in November, or December. He'll get paid nicely for it - 2016 would be a very lucrative year for Frampton; the Quigg fight he pocketed like 2 million USD, got 500k (plus whatever UK money, prolly a few hundred K) for Santa Cruz, and Selby he'll make another 2-3 million. That is unheard of for a guy in his weight-class.

Then 2017 he should really target Rigo if he wants to prove he's the man who we all want to believe he is.

Should Russell keep winning and looking good - that'd be great too.

I think Lomachenko will prolly be too big for Frampton by mid/late 2017; as he'll likely be at 135 by then.

I don't see Frampton's frame carrying him, at the world level, past 126 to be honest.

[TheUptownKid]

I didn't mean it too literal. Frampton was just in two big fights back to back. I just think Russell and Selby should be in a big fight, against each other, before they face someone like Frampton. Plus, like I said Frampton will probably have an easier title defense to end the year and probably get Fighter of the Year for 2016.
No excuse as to why Russell, Selby, and Santa Cruz can't mix it up in the meantime. I wish Russell would stay more active.
And hopefully Valdez can get into the mix as well. Some good fights to be made at 126.

selby just said he didnt wanna fight grj bc he doesn't bring in money and frampton said the same about rigo. Looks like they'll be fighting each other and then chasing a payday after that. I'd love to see grj vs anyone in the divsion, but whether he gets a true look we'll have to see.

[TheUptownKid]

Russel Jr relies on his speed too much. Frampton feints will bamboozle him the same way Loma did but Carl will be stepping in with power, not to mention Carl's jab WILL be a factor offensively and defensively. Russell Jr has that equalizer as well but Carl has to be the favorite.

I like Selby, he fights like Broner..... but Carl will wreck him.

Get him Rigo! Force Carl to fight him.

Loma is a different style fighter than carl, much more technical with game plans. Though carl boxed beautifully saturday, he isn't the type to be physical or use his physicality to alter a fighters defense (swipe down gloves, head positioning inside, throw and smother, etc) like loma did and grj has changed some of his defense since then. I'd love to see the fight though

[Boxfan83]

I'm a Frampton supporter but I don't see him beating either Russell or Selby, too slick especially Russell.

Gary Russells slick?

[Boxfan83]

Oh my god!!! You guys took it too literal. ****ing hell.

Here, take this

lol, I agree with you Hi-Tech. Frampton deserves a quick $ grab and Russell needs to get his name out in the open. Its the same group of HYPOCRITE fans on NSB that cry A-side, TV ratings and money all the time but want Frampton to fight for peanuts against GRJr to fulfill their agenda, their bias is obvious.

[Humean]

Both tough fights but I'd fancy Frampton in both although the Russell Jr fight could be a bit tougher. There is something 'wrong' with Russell Jr though, I don't know if it is just his hand injuries or if he just isn't all there mentally but I think he is less than his talent would suggest.

[HI-TECH Boxing]

selby just said he didnt wanna fight grj bc he doesn't bring in money and frampton said the same about rigo. Looks like they'll be fighting each other and then chasing a payday after that. I'd love to see grj vs anyone in the divsion, but whether he gets a true look we'll have to see.

Does Selby bring any money? I doubt he brings much.
Selby is a joke. They asked him if he wanted to face Russell and he said he wanted Russell to face Lomachenko again. Does this guy have no confidence of beating Russell?
Why doesn't he want to fight Russell?
The Frampton fight is probably not happening this year, so why not fight Russell in the end of this year?

[HI-TECH Boxing]

lol, I agree with you Hi-Tech. Frampton deserves a quick $ grab and Russell needs to get his name out in the open. Its the same group of HYPOCRITE fans on NSB that cry A-side, TV ratings and money all the time but want Frampton to fight for peanuts against GRJr to fulfill their agenda, their bias is obvious.

I want to see all these guys fight each other. Not just rely on Frampton.
Let us see Russell vs. Selby, Russell vs. Santa Cruz, Selby vs Santa Cruz, Russell vs. Cuellar, Santa Cruz vs. Cuellar, Russell vs. Mares, Selby vs. Mares, Selby vs. Cuellar.
Frampton will also be in the mix, but they don't just have to wait for Frampton.
Frampton is the leader for Fighter of the Year. All he has to do is fight one more top 10-15 opponent to end the year and he surely gets it.
They could of had Russell vs. Selby while Frampton vs. Santa Cruz was scheduled, but they didn't.
I don't think Selby wants any part of anyone other than Frampton because he probably wants to cash out. The guy doesn't seem confident to me. He shouldn't be afraid of losing. Look at Leo, he lost but people still want to see him back. I know I do. There are still a lot of interesting fights involving Leo, including the Frampton rematch.
Remember Selby basically said he didn't want to think of unifying until after two years of winning his world title. The guy is a joke.
I actually think Russell would fight anyone. I feel like Selby is the difficult one. All they need to do with Russell is put him in there against anyone and he'll accept the fight. I would like to see how the other top guys handle Russell's style. I would like to see how they handle each other in general. A lot of interesting match-ups in this division. (Unfortunately Loma may not be part of it.)

Hopefully Valdez can get into the mix as well. Great fights to be made at 126 and they all don't have to dependent on Frampton. Frampton is just one guy.
I think Frampton will fight all the top guys in the division, but everyone else will also have to fight each other.
These guys are lucky to be in a good division, other boxers wish they could be in division as good as this one. Hopefully they don't mess it up.
It's not like they have all the time in the World to make these fights happen. Some of them will move up and others may not make it. So take advantage of the moment, because there is no telling what happens tomorrow.

[Boxfan83]

I want to see all these guys fight each other. Not just rely on Frampton.
Let us see Russell vs. Selby, Russell vs. Santa Cruz, Selby vs Santa Cruz, Russell vs. Cuellar, Santa Cruz vs. Cuellar, Russell vs. Mares, Selby vs. Mares, Selby vs. Cuellar.
Frampton will also be in the mix, but they don't just have to wait for Frampton.
Frampton is the leader for Fighter of the Year. All he has to do is fight one more top 10-15 opponent to end the year and he surely gets it.
They could of had Russell vs. Selby while Frampton vs. Santa Cruz was scheduled, but they didn't.
I don't think Selby wants any part of anyone other than Frampton because he probably wants to cash out. The guy doesn't seem confident to me. He shouldn't be afraid of losing. Look at Leo, he lost but people still want to see him back. I know I do. There are still a lot of interesting fights involving Leo, including the Frampton rematch.
Remember Selby basically said he didn't want to think of unifying until after two years of winning his world title. The guy is a joke.
I actually think Russell would fight anyone. I feel like Selby is the difficult one. All they need to do with Russell is put him in there against anyone and he'll accept the fight. I would like to see how the other top guys handle Russell's style. I would like to see how they handle each other in general. A lot of interesting match-ups in this division. (Unfortunately Loma may not be part of it.)

Hopefully Valdez can get into the mix as well. Great fights to be made at 126 and they all don't have to dependent on Frampton. Frampton is just one guy.
I think Frampton will fight all the top guys in the division, but everyone else will also have to fight each other.
These guys are lucky to be in a good division, other boxers wish they could be in division as good as this one. Hopefully they don't mess it up.
It's not like they have all the time in the World to make these fights happen. Some of them will move up and others may not make it. So take advantage of the moment, because there is no telling what happens tomorrow.

As for Frampton, we are going to hear his name a lot, it happens, hes the $ guy now at 126 and even though he looked good against LSC, he is still beatable so people want to jump on that fire while its hot. But like you I want to see the best fight the best, in a perfect world Gary Russel wouldve fought Selby and the winner couldve fought Frampton early next year after Frampton made a voluntary defense. Personally I hope Valdez throws his name into the mix more clear and gets a fight with Cueller, I dont think Mares will be back anytime soon so Cuellers left without a dance partner and Valdez beating an Argentine for the vacant belt gives that fight a little story line. As for LSC, to be honest I think he needs to work his way back up, Frampton beat him pretty clearly IMO. I have a funny feeling though that we will see LSC vs Gary Russel before we see him vs Frampton.