Comments Thread For: Golovkin's Promoter Eyes Andre Ward - If Both Keep Winning

[Mr. Luthor]

You think he won't want at LEAST 1-2 fights at 168???

You don't REALLY think he would go STRAIGHT at Ward the 1st time up at 168??? Do you?

Wasn't it Golovkin's camp that said "Anyone at 154, 160 and 168" but they couldn't possibly move up to 168 to fight Ward without one or two 168 fights first? Don't recall them saying that when they were chasing Chavez Jr and Froch at 168.

[CaneloMaidana]

Says a guy whose AVI is a boxer who literally does nothing but run.



Stop it.

GGG wouldn't move up to 168 and take on Ward first, so yes he'd have to focus on 168 and not the three titles he was chasing in 2015/2016. Lemiuex was signed. Do you really think Canelo would be forced to vacate if GGG was gonna move up anyways, no. WBC wouldn't of done it. Plus they had Lee lined up until he lost.

Ward's offer was a joke.

It's called boxing you dullard.

[CaneloMaidana]

Ward went up to avoid Gennady, if Gennady goes up he will keep moving up. This coward doesnt want it. He rejected the fight 5 times, what makes you think he'll accept if we go after him again.

Golovkin is a wimp. His coward dad failed.

[Cinci Champ]

If Ward was to fight GGG at 175 it would be the same thing, so I'm looking forward to your contradiction and hypocrisy.

except for fact ward is way small for lw and brook can barely make 147 but hey distort the facts if u want. Also got to take into account that all fighters move up in weight as pros at least once which ggg has never done

[Mr. Luthor]

Since some of you defend and support GGG not/couldn't fighting/fight Ward in his first fight at 168, you can also understand and support Canelo not agreeing to fight Golovkin in his first fight at 160.

[Lester Tutor]

I agree. And believe it or not but the Mexican community is giving him HELL about that BS he pulled. He lost 50% of fans just on that alone.

lies. Even though Marquez and Chavez Sr. as well as most of ESPN Spanish version have been against Alvarez since 2011 (because on standard rivalry states)...yet Alvarez' twitter fans are still at 650K since Q1 2016. Yeah, half of Alvarez's fans have pulled out..

at the end of the day, regardless of Alvarez's limited mastery, skills pay the bills

[Mr. Luthor]

Actually GGG is getting over 10 mil to fight Brook. When is the last time Ward got that kind of payday?

Also Ward has never headlined a PPV before to my knowledge. GGG did last year, and is about to headline one in the UK. Ward will headline his first vs a top three P4P fighter. GGG headlined his vs David Lemieux.

Canelo is hardly a PPV star by the way. Gets about 300k views to fight highly anticipated fights vs Lara or another popular Mexican in Angulo. GGG got half that against a Canadian who hadn't fought on HBO all year. If it was GGG-Lara it probably gets at least 200k.

So Canelo is 35% more popular PPV wise when he fights similar opponents... and GGG is getting five times more $ for his next fight than Ward is, and probably twice as much as Ward will even get against Kovalev.

But that doesn't count? You're the moron if you think vague labels matter more than logic. Before the standard was always the bigger star was the A-side, period. Now you try to argue that doesn't matter for GGG-Ward because even though GGG is a bigger star, he's not a PPV star, so he's not a big enough star himself. Well if GGG is a bigger star than Ward, but he's still not a big enough star for it to count, then how big a star does that make Ward? That must make him even further away from being a PPV star, so that still makes him the B-side.

2 is twice as much as 1, just like 100 is twice as much as 50. You can't answer that fact by saying "yeah but 2 isn't 100." It's about relativity. Canelo is a bigger PPV star than GGG, but GGG is a bigger PPV star than Ward, so why is Canelo being a bigger star than GGG relevant but GGG being a bigger star than Ward not relevant? I'm trying to think how else I can explain it but you just don't want to see your own inconsistency I guess. That's the hallmark of someone who is biased against certain fighters, they can never admit their own bias to themselves even when it's so damn obvious.

Hell, I remember people saying Rigondeaux should take whatever Donaire offered him to get the fight, whatever terms, because Donaire was the A-side. Yet, Donaire was never a PPV star either. So it's never been about that and you know it! There's never been a minimum barrier of being a PPV star to be an A-side LOL. Talk about out of left field. I wonder who was the A-side last saturday, Deontay or Arreola? I'm pretty sure it was Deontay, and yet he's not a PPV star. So there have been so many discussions of A-side B-side on boxingscene with almost every top fighter and their fights, and almost none of them besides Pacquiao and Floyd are PPV stars. So there you go. You have applied inconsistent standards when judging GGG, if not compared to your prior standards of A-side/B-side, then at least inconsistent with the standards put forth by the Floyd/Ward fan contingent on boxingscene.

Stop the madness.

Heavyweight champion and proven UK PPV star Anthony Joshua doesn't even get a 10 million purse in the UK but you are actually here trying to tell boxing fans that one time 150,000 PPV Golovkin is getting 10 million to fight a welterweight? Hilarious!!!!! Welterweights would be lining up to face Brook in the UK if 10 million dollars was offered to them.

[Lou Cipher]

They've already chased Andre "The Cow" Ward out of the Middleweights. They should stop bullying coWard before they get labeled racist, and focus on the daunting task ahead vs the younger undefeated World Champion with the better record, Kell Brook.

[War Dinamita]

Little G's team is talking **** again. Little G wants no part of Ward and even turned down a fight with Ward in the past. What makes you think he wants a piece of Ward?

[Bronx2245]

True! I agree. But P4P ranking doesn't matter in negotiations according to you guys. Because you guys said GGG should accept a 90-10 split against Canelo, and accept a catch weight. And yet, GGG is higher ranked pound for pound than Canelo. So clearly when it comes to negotiations, you guys value financial mite, not pound for pound ranking.

And yet now with Ward, you bring up pound for pound ranking.

Do you see now why normal boxing fans don't take the haters seriously? Maybe it's not you but overall they can't keep their story straight.

When the topic is GGG-Canelo, they say "Canelo is the A-side because he's a bigger star, it doesn't matter who the higher ranked pound for pound fighter is!"

When the topic is GGG-Ward, they say "Ward is the A-side because if he beats Kovalev he'll be #1 pound for pound! Being the bigger star doesn't matter!"

If you were a GGG fan, what would you think, honestly, when you see inconsistent arguments being used as a way to always be critical of him, and favor whoever is against him?

Here's where the problem lies: How is GGG ranked higher on any P4P list, than Canelo? What is the basis for such ranking? Trout, Lara, and Cotto, are all way superior fighters than anyone GGG has faced! Are we now ranking people based on "potential?" If that's the case, then Errol Spence Jr. should be in the top #10, but he's not. Why? Because he hasn't faced any elite fighters yet. I'm a GGG fan, but I can only speculate what he would do to a Trout, a Lara, or a Cotto, but I don't have to speculate what Canelo would do, because he's already done it! Andre Ward has already shown us what he can do. If Ward beats Kovalev, and he's still not a bigger star than GGG, we have to start asking...WHY??? I hope GGG does get a good opponent in 2017! It's time we find out if he's really good, or is it all hype! I believe he's the real deal, but as of today, it's all just speculation.