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  • IMDAZED
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    #161
    Originally posted by JUNIABOY
    Because JCCjr had a bigger fanbase, & thus the money justified the risk--in order to secure that money, offering JCCjr his optimum weight of 168 would further entice him to take the bout. Same with Froch.
    Right. I agree. GGG is about the money. Nothing wrong with that.

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      #162
      Originally posted by JUNIABOY
      Also, in theory, Canelo was also capable of negotiating another catchweight of 157 or 158. But he wouldn't budge off of 155. If GGG was being difficult by not wanting at 155, Canelo was reciprocating by not wanting to move off of 155. GGG's justification to fight at 160 has more rationale in comparison to Caneloweight 155.
      Bigger name can do as he pleases. That's the way it goes.

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        #163
        Originally posted by aboutfkntime
        1) rubbish! Ward approached Team Bull**** immediately following the Smith fight in July 2015, and he wanted to fight IMMEDIATELY..... but guess what?..... lil'G suddenly needed a catchweight of 164.

        164, or no fight !
        Mandalay Bay, Las Vegas - Abel Sanchez, trainer of WBA/IBO middleweight champion Gennady 'GGG' Golovkin, has made it absolutely clear that he's not going to budge from his position that a potential fight with Andre Ward will only happen if Ward - the recognized champion at super middleweight - is wiling to meet them halfway at a catch-weight of 164-pounds. Golovkin and his team received more than their fair share of heat in recent days, after placing a catch-weight demand on a potential fight with Ward. The reason for the heat, is because Golovkin was willing to fight both Carl Froch and Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. at the full super middleweight limit.


        2) rubbish again! Golovkin ran around for FOUR YEARS saying that he can beat "anyone from 154-168"..... and he promised to give Canelo a catchweight..... but then, he ducked Canelo to fight Kell Brook, an unproven welter.

        http://ring tv.craveonline.com/news/...canelo-alvarez

        3) Loeffler did not ring Erislandy Lara, he rang Kell Brook.

        This past Saturday night at the Cosmopolitan Hotel & Casino in Las Vegas, WBA/IBO junior middleweight world champion Erislandy 'The American Dream' Lara (23-2-2, 13KOs) successfully defended his titles with a hard-fought twelve round unanimous decision over Vanes "The Nightmare" Martirosyan.


        Don't be a little fanboy who fails to hold a grown man accountable for his words/actions..... willya?


        Hey, did you notice how my post contains facts and links and stuff..... and yet, your post just contains unsubstantiated fanboy opinions?

        Why is that again ?

        Keep pushing the golov-wagon, hypeman..... faster faster !
        1) BS. Ward's team wanted to get him 2 tune-ups before taking on GGG. Where are you getting your lies from? Excuse me, Ward wanted 3 tune-ups. You keep linking the same article, & I keep telling you that the article isn't supporting your claim. Ward wanted tune-ups before fighting GGG. He wasn't ready to fight GGG right away. That's it. You're done. Stop trying to make this same argument over & over & over...

        ~http://www.boxingscene.com/gggs-coac...t-again--96654

        2) Once again I ask you for the name of this boxer from 154-168 who actually wants to fight GGG right now. Right now. Who? Because Canelo don't want none (you keep bringing him up & it's hurting your rep because Canelo was the most publicized duck in boxing history)...& Jacobs don't want none...& Saunders don't want none...& Eubank Jr. don't want none. Lara talks a big game but never advised his manager to pursue the fight. & Ward is tied up til the end of 2016. So tell me the name of this boxer who wants to fight GGG right now. You can't. Because there is none. Brook is it. Deal.

        3) Lara's manager, Dibella, admits he never "formerly reached out to them." Stop it already. We've been over this how many times! Look at the video (1:22).

        ~https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8VqGMKKAnI

        You just can't get over yourself to even make an educated guess with the available information, huh hype man. It's like if there's information that contradicts your stance, you just ignore it. You need to do a lot more work to keep up the hype trolling.

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          #164
          Originally posted by IMDAZED
          Right. I agree. GGG is about the money. Nothing wrong with that.
          Well, Loeffler is on record for saying that he won't move GGG away from 160 unless the reward is worth the risk. I have nothing wrong with that. GGG still has work left at 160...until that work is done, I wouldn't support a move up in weight class (unless it's a one-time fight like has been suggested for Zurdo). I'm not going to advocate boxers fight for pennies. Neither will I say that GGG should give up on his goal.

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            #165
            Originally posted by aboutfkntime
            Not Bernard Hopkins !

            ..... and not Marvin Haglers either!

            It is the WBA's fault that lil'G does not get any credit for defending their "regular" title..... so if that upsets you deeply, maybe take it up with them?

            No genuine boxing fan would support the WBA's greed and corruption.

            No genuine boxing fan would support having multiple champions in the same division, let alone within the same sanctioning body.

            But not surprised at all to see that you happily support it.

            Have some pride you clown.
            Every single one of those alphabet boxing organizations is corrupt. What's your point?! Direct your anger where it belongs. The WBA is to blame. You're just all over the place now, hype man. Maybe you should take a break.

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              #166
              Originally posted by aboutfkntime
              I am talking about this link, you fool.....

              Mandalay Bay, Las Vegas - Abel Sanchez, trainer of WBA/IBO middleweight champion Gennady 'GGG' Golovkin, has made it absolutely clear that he's not going to budge from his position that a potential fight with Andre Ward will only happen if Ward - the recognized champion at super middleweight - is wiling to meet them halfway at a catch-weight of 164-pounds. Golovkin and his team received more than their fair share of heat in recent days, after placing a catch-weight demand on a potential fight with Ward. The reason for the heat, is because Golovkin was willing to fight both Carl Froch and Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. at the full super middleweight limit.


              The link which proves that the 164 demand from Team Bull**** was a show-stopper, and not an opening point for negotiation..... like that unsubstantiated bull**** you tried to spin earlier.

              have some pride you silly groupie kid
              Hype man, come on man. Are you even reading the articles you link? Sanchez says, "But right now, as it stands, he has to come to 164 if he wants to fight Gennady." Remember what he said earlier: "That was the reason why I said 50-50 and 50-50 means 164." Now look at the date. July 23. Now read this:

              ~http://www.boxingscene.com/golovkins...0-split--93258

              July 8. Like I said. Ward was talking so much smack that GGG's team decided to play hardball & call Ward out on 164 if he wants 50/50. Ward's team is trying to make demands they are in no position to make. I don't want to have to keep repeating this whole thing over & over & over to you again. But you just can't understand information & process it correctly. You need to go back & do some more work, hype man.

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                #167
                Originally posted by JUNIABOY
                Well, Loeffler is on record for saying that he won't move GGG away from 160 unless the reward is worth the risk. I have nothing wrong with that. GGG still has work left at 160...until that work is done, I wouldn't support a move up in weight class (unless it's a one-time fight like has been suggested for Zurdo). I'm not going to advocate boxers fight for pennies. Neither will I say that GGG should give up on his goal.
                I don't blame Loeffler either. They wanna milk the cow. As I said, they're content taking on nondescript opposition until a big fight falls in their lap. I just call it for what it is, not "the most feared fighter" blah blah crap.

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                  #168
                  Originally posted by therealpugilist
                  ......dang bro, you went all hiroshima and nagasaki in this thread

                  Garglers hate the facts even if they are right in front of them

                  I like you style, keep bursting their bubbles.

                  Its comical how it always takes 5 of them to jump one poster and still take an L ...THE GARGLERS NEED A HUG AFTER YOUR LAST FEW POSTS

                  JUNIABOY (LMAO) is just a fanboy turd..... he is just like the rest of the casuals, totally clueless about styles/levels/weight

                  why do fanboy alt's have the ******est names ?..... JUNIABOY LOL

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                    #169
                    Originally posted by JUNIABOY
                    1) BS. Ward's team wanted to get him 2 tune-ups before taking on GGG. Where are you getting your lies from? Excuse me, Ward wanted 3 tune-ups. You keep linking the same article, & I keep telling you that the article isn't supporting your claim. Ward wanted tune-ups before fighting GGG. He wasn't ready to fight GGG right away. That's it. You're done. Stop trying to make this same argument over & over & over...

                    ~http://www.boxingscene.com/gggs-coac...t-again--96654

                    tard-boy, don't attempt to re-write history by posting a quote from Dirty Sanchez LMAO

                    That piece-of-**** is even more dishonest that you are.

                    Andre Ward wants Golovkin fight now.....
                    http://www.boxing news 24.com/2015/07/andre-ward-wants-golovkin-fight-now/

                    We are targeting Gennady Golovkin right now.....


                    Andre Ward wants a piece of Gennady Golovkin, but he doesn’t want to let the fight marinate. The super middleweight champion wants it now.....
                    Stay updated with the latest boxing news, upcoming matches, fighter interviews, and expert insights, all at MMA Junkie's dedicated boxing section.


                    I’m available.....
                    Stay updated with the latest boxing news, upcoming matches, fighter interviews, and expert insights, all at MMA Junkie's dedicated boxing section.


                    Andre Ward is available and we can make it happen.....


                    Andre Wards camp has announced that they want GGG next.....
                    https://insideringside.com/2015/07/2...ible-for-2015/


                    Originally posted by JUNIABOY
                    2) Once again I ask you for the name of this boxer from 154-168 who actually wants to fight GGG right now. Right now. Who? Because Canelo don't want none (you keep bringing him up & it's hurting your rep because Canelo was the most publicized duck in boxing history)...& Jacobs don't want none...& Saunders don't want none...& Eubank Jr. don't want none. Lara talks a big game but never advised his manager to pursue the fight. & Ward is tied up til the end of 2016. So tell me the name of this boxer who wants to fight GGG right now. You can't. Because there is none. Brook is it. Deal.

                    The fighters who Golovkin ducked are..... Ward, Mora, Lara, Canelo, Cotto..... and the fighters who Golovkin avoided are most likely Saunders, Jacobs.

                    FACT: lil'G COULD have fought Ward, Mora, Lara, Canelo, and most likely Cotto as well..... but he CHOSE not to.

                    And Team Bull**** GOT CAUGHT LYING about the offer to Saunders, and they offered Danny Jacobs "Quillin money"..... so it looks like Hypekin is avoiding those guys as well.

                    I'm glad you enjoyed the Wade fight, and I hope you enjoy the Brook fight..... and I am sure that you will enjoy the Bradley fight after that

                    Listen clown, Hypekin can fight whoever he wants, because the historians will judge him accordingly..... just don't cry to me because your guy is too scurred to step up and fight a live opponent.


                    Originally posted by JUNIABOY
                    3) Lara's manager, Dibella, admits he never "formerly reached out to them." Stop it already. We've been over this how many times! Look at the video (1:22).

                    ~https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8VqGMKKAnI

                    You just can't get over yourself to even make an educated guess with the available information, huh hype man. It's like if there's information that contradicts your stance, you just ignore it. You need to do a lot more work to keep up the hype trolling.

                    Dumb ****, what don't you understand about the following.....

                    FACT: Loeffler could have called Lara, but he called Brook.

                    Link me to where Team Bull**** offered Lara a Golovkin fight..... ?

                    How about you grow up, stop making childish excuses, and start to hold a grown man responsible for his words/actions.

                    The fact that you would prefer to cut off one of your fingers rather than admit that lil'G ducked Andre Ward..... is only eclipsed by your childish urge to defend a man who has done nothing but piss all over his fans for the last 4 years, and who doesn't even know you exist.

                    You got some growing up to do kid, so go do it quietly

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                      #170
                      Originally posted by JUNIABOY
                      Well, Loeffler is on record for saying that he won't move GGG away from 160 unless the reward is worth the risk. I have nothing wrong with that. GGG still has work left at 160...until that work is done, I wouldn't support a move up in weight class (unless it's a one-time fight like has been suggested for Zurdo). I'm not going to advocate boxers fight for pennies. Neither will I say that GGG should give up on his goal.

                      you dopey clown.....

                      1) if Loeffler lies to you, why repeat that lie to others ?

                      2) how the fk is Zurdo worth moving up for, but not Ward ?

                      Explain that to me you dopey fanboy clown LMAO

                      You are too ****** to realize that Team Bull**** ran around for FOUR YEARS stating that they can beat "anyone from 1564-168"..... and the only reason why they started using that "Gennady is only focused on Middleweight" line, is because they were copping a backlash for ducking Ward.

                      But guess what happened immediately after starting to run with that "focusing on 160" line..... ? right, those fkn asshats just couldn't help themselves by calling out Froch at the very first opportunity.

                      The timeline of disgraceful ducking is below, for your convenience LMAO


                      First it was, " Golovkin: I'll fight anyone at 154, 160, 168 "
                      http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/box...-at-154160-168

                      Then Andre Ward announced his comeback.

                      So it became, " Golovkin: I'll fight anyone at 154, 160, 164 "
                      Promoter Tom Loeffler of K2 Promotions, who handle IBO/WBA middleweight champion Gennady "GGG" Golovkin (33-0, 30 KOs), says a fight can certainly be worked out with WBA super middleweight king Andre Ward (28-0, 15 KOs). But the deal would have to be under Golovkin's terms and not dictated by Ward. Loeffler feels Golovkin has surpassed Ward as a ticket seller and in terms of name recognition - making GGG the A-side of the negotiations.


                      Then Ward said that he would consider a catchweight.

                      So it became, " Nobody at 154/160 can go 12 rounds with Golovkin "
                      http://www.mma-core.com/videos/Abel_...ht_us/10102303

                      Then Cotto/Canelo both insisted upon a catchweight.

                      So now it is, " Gennady Golovkin eyes unification at middleweight "
                      WBA,WBC, and IBF middleweight champion Gennady Golovkin said he wants to fight the winner of November’s bout between Miguel Cotto and Saul “Canelo” Alvarez.


                      Then Ward moved to LHW.

                      So NOW it is, " Golovkin Will Go Anywhere To Face Carl Froch! "
                      WBA/IBO/IBF middleweight champion Gennady "GGG" Golovkin (34-0, 31KOs) is still very interested in facing Carl Froch, according to the champion's head trainer Abel Sanchez. Froch (33-2, 24KOs) has been inactive since his big rematch win in May 2014, when he knocked out George Groves before a crowd of 80,000 fans.


                      WTF ??????????

                      When the Golovkin hype-train left the station, most fans were under the impression that GGG actually wanted to fight guys like Ward/Cotto/Canelo.

                      Keep pushing the golov-wagon hypeman

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