Adonis is not liked but has the ability and power to possibly beat Kov and Ward

[FrankieClutch]

He does, which makes it more frustrating that he ran from the Kov fight

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dawson was not shot.....at that point he hadnt been in many grueling fights to that point outside of his early fight with Glen Johnson and Ward

a guy takes 2 or 3 losses and their shot now?

We didn't know he was shot at the time, like I said. People thought it was a decent win. Hindsight is 20/20 -- Dawson was already toast when he fought Stevenson.

If Dawson was one name among this incredible resume of Stevenson's then I would just be some butthurt guy nitpicking, but that isn't the case. That's his flagship win and one of his only notable ones.

[ADP02]

I don't regard Stevenson as a factor at 175. Ward is already bigger player at 175 just by arriving.

Stevenon wouldn't fight Hopkins. Wouldn't fight Kovalev. Wouldn't fight Pascal. You can't shave the top of your division off, fight #15 and keep saying they have to get past you because you're lineal. Lineal belts are a joke.

He landed a punch on a shot-to-**** Dawson and that's basically the legacy he's living off of.

Plus that would probably be the easiest fight of Ward's career. Stevenson has one punch in his arsenal and Ward is a guy who watches patterns and starts punishing you for them, has boxing skills several lightyears ahead of Stevenson.

I doubt that Stevenson would have had concerns with taking on Hopkins and Pascal. There was at one point or another interest in those fights. Kovalev, I'm not so sure of though.

The way its looking, the earliest a fight can happen with either Ward or Kovalev is next year for Stevenson. By then, he would be approaching 40. His chances are becoming less and less likely of Stevenson winning. He should have already done that fight.

[therealpugilist]

We didn't know he was shot at the time, like I said. People thought it was a decent win. Hindsight is 20/20 -- Dawson was already toast when he fought Stevenson.

If Dawson was one name among this incredible resume of Stevenson's then I would just be some butthurt guy nitpicking, but that isn't the case. That's his flagship win and one of his only notable ones.

He got hit with a good shot, more than he was shot.....what happened to him was similar to roy jones but in different order....was 1 punch kayoed by tarver, and then took a shellacking from johnson and was never the same....getting stopped and kayoed makes you gun shy, and tight....after a beating from ward, and the one shot kayo(it happens its boxing) it took away his confidence. Most fighters stop punching with their opponents, and peek a boo when punched at

neither guy was ever the same after a prolonged beating and one punch kayo

I think it was gradual, he didnt wake up one day and go from BAD Chad Dawson, not the guy that lost to Karpency...he was done after stevenson ko'ed him not before

[mannysavage]

beterbiev?

He is a decent fighter but literally has no head movement, lacks a jab and throws wide shots

He has power...woooooopeeeeeee

Every good fighter looks like tyson vs the level of opposition he fights...he fights Ward, Kov or stevenson, today, he gets wrecked

he has no defense

Who needs head movement and defense if you have swag?
And he does have a jab

[therealpugilist]

We didn't know he was shot at the time, like I said. People thought it was a decent win. Hindsight is 20/20 -- Dawson was already toast when he fought Stevenson.

If Dawson was one name among this incredible resume of Stevenson's then I would just be some butthurt guy nitpicking, but that isn't the case. That's his flagship win and one of his only notable ones.

bellew just won the wbc cruiserweight title.....

He was the first to stop Tavoris Cloud and also beat him a year before Beterbiev(who is hyped on this site)

Fonfara has been a top ten light heavyweight a long time and Stevenson beat him right before his two biggest wins, over cleverly and chavez jr.


with just 27 fights under his ledger, I'd say winning the wbc in the ring, defending it 6 times and 3 over former champions is not a bad resume at all

most guys with 27 fights havent even fought for a title, let alone beat more than one top ten contender.


Look at brook...only beat porter
Martin Murray never beat anyone rated


his resume is not as bad as you're making it out to be....short career and advanced age...its pretty impressive in some ways

[therealpugilist]

Who needs head movement and defense if you have swag?
And he does have a jab

....being able to throw a jab doesnt mean you know how to control you opponent, the distance and the pace of the fight with it....his jab is not versatile and is underused

[Dean_Razorback]

Pretty much exact same post u posted in another thread. You needed to make a thread out of it?

this guy loves attention too much

[therealpugilist]

this guy loves attention too much

I copied and pasted it....thought it would be a good thread topic....doesnt get discussed much

how about you stop giving/paying attention to me....you guys are petty.....i find it funny how its always the same guys complaining about my threads, yet they are always the first to post

if you are a fan, just say so....and move on...if not....put me on your ignore list....simple

[Dean_Razorback]

I copied and pasted it....thought it would be a good thread topic....doesnt get discussed much

how about you stop giving/paying attention to me....you guys are petty.....i find it funny how its always the same guys complaining about my threads, yet they are always the first to post

if you are a fan, just say so....and move on...if not....put me on your ignore list....simple

i'm a fan, what do you want me to do? i can't help it, i fucking love your threads!!!