Comments Thread For: Golovkin on Brook: This is Biggest Test For Me, Biggest Fight

[SeekDaGreat]

Revisionism at its best. Prior to undefeated Porter losing to Brook he was the next big thing in the WW division. Pretty much like Spence is now. People on these boards had him as an outstanding favorite because Brook had struggled with Carson Jones. Now Porter has a 2 in the loss column he is totally diminished. and how is Brook a domestic club WW? because you say so? I don't believe everything boxing journalists tell me but I'd pay more attention to them than you and most of them have Brook as either the best or at least a top 3 WW. Domestic Club WW - get out of here with that laughable biased crap.

Brook himself is the one who made himself a domestic club fighter, look at his resume. I didn't just come out here and make that up.

I didnt call Porter a bum either, I said he was average. In other words pretty basic. He looked good destroying Malignaggi... I admit that, at the time the kool-aid was real but time revealed he isn't that. It's okay to change your mind o something when provided with the right data. Right?

[aboutfkntime]

How many proven great fighters are actually active at this point in time? The scarcity of genuine proven stars is shocking. I've got

Gonzalez - getting there
Rigo - one great result - far to go
Lomachenko - is on track but far to go
Bradley - record diminished by 3 real losses to Pac
Cotto - has lost his biggest fights
Canelo - has dubious results
Ward - the standout and even his record is not as good as bygone champs
Kovalev - is on track if he stays unbeaten
Klitscho - rep is based of longevity rather than opponents record.

So yes, Brook is no Marquez but who else is there to fight? Boxing is in a bad way at the moment until the next standouts blaze a trail.

It is not Golovkin's fault that middleweight is dead.....

..... but, so what ?

Boxing history does not care, or accept that excuse, and why should it?

That is not the fault of Carlos Monzon, or Marvin Hagler..... so why should they be penalised?

They racked up those great wins, and Golovkin did not..... the reason why is irrelevant.

Boxing historians do not evaluate excuses, they measure results.

Golovkin should move up.

What a lot of observers are forgetting is this.....

..... the " duckin me doe " excuse, does not work..... not for Golovkin, and not for anyone else either.

Let's assume that Team Golovkin did not get caught LYING about the offer to Saunders, and let's pretend that Jacobs did not publicly state that K2 offered him "Quillin money"...... even if Golovkin beat those guys, SO FKN WHAT?

The "duckin me doe" excuse applies to Saunders and Jacobs, neither of whom will get Golovkin any closer to Monzon/Hagler.

Everyone needs to stop making weak excuses for the man who ran around for FOUR YEARS saying that he could beat "anyone from 154-168".

The fact is..... he COULD have fought Ward, Lara, Mora, Canelo, and likely Cotto as well..... but he CHOSE not to.....

..... and if he COULD have fought those guys, then who gives a **** about Jacobs/Saunders?

I have no idea why the guy who promised that he was willing to make sacrifices in order to make big fights, suddenly CHOSE not to.

There are waaaaay too many excuses and missed opportunities now.

[Sweet_Science2]

Duran was a great fight for hagler and Duran is a lightweight. Floyd was too scared of brook and of GGG so you can sit down

Floyd beat Pacquiao though. And pussie g is a middleweight who was scared to fight Lara at 160 and Ward at 168. And name three A fighters Brook beat? I'll wait.

How do you feel about pussie g fighting a welterweight instead of Lara at 160?

[Sweet_Science2]

Well GGG is no hagler, so brook is a good fight for GGG. Floyd was too scared of brook so GGG fighting brook for Floyd. Floyd was too scared of GGG, so brook doing it for Floyd
So the fight is good whichever way you see it

And Pacquiao hasn't fought neither so? Is Pacquiao scared? You fuucking f@ggot. pussie g has a horrible resume. If pussie g fought Floyd at 147 he would get his ass whipped. And Brook would lose to Floyd easy. So Brook is better than Pacquiao now?

[Sweet_Science2]

GGG just turned into the same guy a lot of these guys have been praising for years. Sucks he doesn't represent the same flag or color. This fight is shit but it's still better than Ward vs Brand.

Only difference is Ward has a better resume. And Ward moved up in weight to fight Kovalev November 19th, in Las Vegas his next fight. What is pussie g doing again? That's right fighting a fuucking WW

[Larry the boss]

Kell Brook is a good fighter.

Floyd Mayweather avoided good prime opponents like Brook, and soiled himself with fear at the thought of fighting Golovkin.

Instead he fought weak opponents like Berto.

Floyd fought a lot of smaller men like Pacquiao (who started at straw weight) JMM, Guerrero, etc. Yet the Mayweather fans are harshly critical of Golovkin-Brook. What hypocrites they are!

Name Brooks top 10 wins

Name GGG's 10 best wins

[Larry the boss]

Hypocrite!!!

You expect middleweight Golovkin to fight light heavyweight Andre Ward.

Yet you bash GGG when a boxer moves up from welterweight to fight him.

160 minus 147 = 13
175 minus 160 = 15

More difference between middleweight and light heavyweight.

And lets not forget, Ward fought at 178 in the amateurs.

Ward wanted the fight at 168

[Mr.Fantastic]

Only difference is Ward has a better resume. And Ward moved up in weight to fight Kovalev November 19th, in Las Vegas his next fight. What is pussie g doing again? That's right fighting a fuucking WW

Better resume but not by far. Take Froch out and it doesn't look great. You're giving him props for something he hasn't done yet. Remember when Ward was suppose to fight Dirrell? I'm not falling for that bullshit again. I'll believe it when Ward is in the ring with Kovalev.


And I never denied GGG's fight is ****. Other MWs great feasted on WWs/JMWs.

[hugh grant]

Floyd came from 130 you ****** , you just cant get that through your empty head , Brook is huge compared to Floyd and Kell in his prime not about to retire after 20yrs on top of the world boxing beating everyone .
c !

So Floyd is too scared to fight wws now because they are big ww? Floyspds a big we as well. No wonder Floyd is unbeaten he never fights the person who's got best chance of beating him.
Just stop tryi ng to criticise GGG as he's threat to Floyd. The man who made Floyd retire to not fight him. The man who is fighting another man Floyd avoided because he was a big ww! GGG and brook are doing things Floyd never dared to. So just give it up!

When all else fails, and the ship is sinking..... blame Floyd


The only similarity between this situation and Mayweather, is Marquez.


But JMM is a first-ballot, and genuine great..... Kell Brook is not.


Marquez was everything that Golovkin is pretending Kell Brook is LMAO

Jmm was PACs used goods. That's all jmm was at the time. Brook is unbeaten. GGG wants brooks unbeaten record. Floyd fans are the only ones criticizing GGG to deflect away criticism for fkoyd.?
So every time GGG gets criticused, Floyd is gonnagetit!

[MC Hammer]

Hat would hold water if Ward had actually fought at 168 in his comeback fight but he fought at a CW of 172. You seem to forget that plus the fact that Ward himself is on record saying he can't make 168 anymore but hey GGG should have fought him at 168 right lil Javi?

After a long break most fighters are coming a little bit over their weight then easing down. Look at what Mickey Garcia is doing right now. Also Ward said once he decides on 175 he's not going back down, he didn't say he couldn't make it at that time. ggg avoided that fight by reaching for 164, then his team started talking tough once Ward was safely out of the way at 175