Why Shouldnt ggg move up in weight???

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there's chavez, i guess, but ohterwise there are no ppv fights at 168 lbs if froch doesn't come back. maybe one f those guys will distance himself from the others, but for now there's a pack of guys who would just be another championship boxing opponent, and golovkin woulnd't have the leverage of being the guy who holds almost all of the belts.

maybe degale can become that guy,a nd bring in the uk money that will kick golovkin up a notch. that remains to be seen. i know chunk won a gold medal, but i really don't know how popular he is over there, and maybe a brit can chime in. he's certainly a good enough fighter.


there is a megafgiht, potentially,w ith the ward kovalev winner, but that's still another 7 lbs north of 168.



the biggest reason, obviously, is the tentative agreement with GBP to get a megafight with canelo, the biggest in boxing. you guys have to understand that hbo and showtime can only pay a certain amount if you don't get to ppv. call it the middle class. gl0vkin at 168 would still be in the "middle class!"

at MW he has the belts, the leverage, and yes, easier fights than he would at 168, where he'd still be favored to beat everybody, most likely, but the fights would be significant;y harder, and in which he might look a bit more human.



i'll also say this:

WTF man, the guy IS a middleweight. this ins't a 24 year old kid who broke into a lower weight class by cutting weight, and outgrew his weight classs. this is a 34 year old man.


shouldn't we expect him to want to try and get the biggest fight in boxing? shouldn't we expect him to remain a middleweight?

All valid points IMO, to an extent...

ggg has been trying to "unify" for what, five years now? I know it takes time, but not one fight had been a "unification" fight. Not one single win is significant.
Hedging your bets on a verbal from GBP is probably not the best thing for his career either. That's like Annie saying "you just stick around and keep posting and I'll send you a shirtless selfie next year". Doesn't make much sense, does it?

[New England]

All valid points IMO, to an extent...

ggg has been trying to "unify" for what, five years now? I know it takes time, but not one fight had been a "unification" fight. Not one single win is significant.
Hedging your bets on a verbal from GBP is probably not the best thing for his career either. That's like Annie saying "you just stick around and keep posting and I'll send you a shirtless selfie next year". Doesn't make much sense, does it?

again, whats' the payoff if you do move up?

the checks still cash. the money is stil the same [and as i exp;ained ith that "unification stuyff" golvokin has the belts, so he actually makes better money because of hte leverage a belt provides you in negotiations.] and the fights are easier at MW. and you have the chance to fight canelo.


they're not going poor, or even losig money at MW. heck, they just got an easy fight for what's likely to be career high money against a WW. they have no incentive to move to 168 at all, unless it's to appease the 20 golovkin detractors on bscene, who don't buy fights anyway, and owuld just demand a move to 168. make no mistake, these are not objective observers. they just want to see golovkin lose.


there's really no incentive for 168 lbs.

[-MEGA-]

I was on my phone in the previous post. But to continue on with what I was saying;

I would like to see ggg in some big fights and I can only think of one person who I would bet against ggg with. Even that fight is damn near 50/50. Everybody keeps focusing on the size/weight and not the power ggg possesses (rumor has it, he could knock out an inanimate object). That power could probably make him a force all the way up to 175. If he were to take fights that people thought were challenging then he would put himself in a better position to get out of that "middle class". I get that he's not getting the fights at 160 but not the "whats he supposed to do part"? Move up where hes not as much of a favorite and people maybe more willing to fight you. Dont fight a WW because he is "willing" he could kill that guy.

The bottom line for me is;

I wanna see how good ggg really is. He definetely passes the eye test. Now lets see him test himself in the ring. If he comes up short along the way, **** it. Comes with the territory. But dont sell yourself short hanging on to this distorted vision of unifying the MW titles. Its not that great if hes handed 3 out of the 4 belts or 4 out of 5 (who knows how many there is)

[MarshallDrum]

All valid points IMO, to an extent...

ggg has been trying to "unify" for what, five years now? I know it takes time, but not one fight had been a "unification" fight. Not one single win is significant.
Hedging your bets on a verbal from GBP is probably not the best thing for his career either. That's like Annie saying "you just stick around and keep posting and I'll send you a shirtless selfie next year". Doesn't make much sense, does it?

When you say a verbal by GBP, there's a bit more to it then that isn't there? Besides the two times he got step aside money, the WBC stepped in at one point with a mandate.

[-MEGA-]

When you say a verbal by GBP, there's a bit more to it then that isn't there? Besides the two times he got step aside money, the WBC stepped in at one point with a mandate.

Nope. Nothing more than a verbal agreement. An agreement that even ggg's team is skeptical of.

[MarshallDrum]

Nope. Nothing more than a verbal agreement. An agreement that even ggg's team is skeptical of.

-Canelo was allowed to fight Cotto, if he fought Golovkin next
-Canelo was mandated to fight Golovkin after Khan

[Vasyl’s dad]

I was on my phone in the previous post. But to continue on with what I was saying;

I would like to see ggg in some big fights and I can only think of one person who I would bet against ggg with. Even that fight is damn near 50/50. Everybody keeps focusing on the size/weight and not the power ggg possesses (rumor has it, he could knock out an inanimate object). That power could probably make him a force all the way up to 175. If he were to take fights that people thought were challenging then he would put himself in a better position to get out of that "middle class". I get that he's not getting the fights at 160 but not the "whats he supposed to do part"? Move up where hes not as much of a favorite and people maybe more willing to fight you. Dont fight a WW because he is "willing" he could kill that guy.

The bottom line for me is;

I wanna see how good ggg really is. He definetely passes the eye test. Now lets see him test himself in the ring. If he comes up short along the way, **** it. Comes with the territory. But dont sell yourself short hanging on to this distorted vision of unifying the MW titles. Its not that great if hes handed 3 out of the 4 belts or 4 out of 5 (who knows how many there is)

Why should he cut himself short of his goal to satisfy you?

[-MEGA-]

-Canelo was allowed to fight Cotto, if he fought Golovkin next
-Canelo was mandated to fight Golovkin after Khan

What's your point and did any of that happen?


lol "Canelo was allowed". Do you mean cotto?

[MPX309]

There is so much wrong with your post and its only one sentence. Who are names at 147? Who are names at 154?

Floyd's resume isn't weak compared to Golovkin's. But it is weak and is full of asterisks.

I've got no idea what you're talking about
I'm referring to Golovkin the poster, he said all the names worth fighting are in the lower divisions, 147 to 154, Lists Canelo and Cotto, who Floyd has beaten but goes onto say Floyd's resume is weak. . . So which is ittt?