GGG Finally Getting What He Wants

[kafkod]

]If there are no fights to be had at Middleweight then you move up,[/B] thats the way its done, thats what is expected for P4P fighters to do.

.....and to answer your question, it sets up Ward to fight Kovalev in November, I guess you conveniently leave that out

So did you criticise Andre Ward for trying to get Golovkin to move up for him when there were no fights to be had at 168?

Thought not.

[daggum]

So did you criticise Andre Ward for trying to get Golovkin to move up for him when there were no fights to be had at 168?

Thought not.

there were many fights to be had at 168 for ward: stevenson, froch, degale, bute, etc...he just didn't want them. according to ward himself he was entitled to pick his own opponents and hbo disagreed so he didn't fight.

[kafkod]

Exactly, they thought B hop was old and past prime, he was, and they couldn't take him.....they failed. Even Hagler was perceived to be past prime vs Ray Leonard. Golovkin is smack in the midst of his prime and continues to fight underwhelming opponents, his only option for greatness is to move up and beat the best at 168 and 175.....that's the only way he'll ever compare to a BHop!

Did you know that SRL moved up from welterweight to fight Hagler?

Did you know that prime Hagler also defended his middleweight title against another welterweight ... Tommy Hearns, and a lightweight .. Roberto Duran?

Did you know that BHop spent 10 YEARS unifying the middleweight division before moving up to 175?

[kafkod]

there were many fights to be had at 168 for ward: stevenson, froch, degale, bute, etc...he just didn't want them. according to ward himself he was entitled to pick his own opponents and hbo disagreed so he didn't fight.

I know that. But Ward fans insist that he "cleaned out 168" and had no opponents left there, and there's no point arguing with them about it.

[Code Red]

So did you criticise Andre Ward for trying to get Golovkin to move up for him when there were no fights to be had at 168?

Thought not.

Isn't Triple G described as the hardest puncher in boxing? Isn't it said that he has to spar with Light Heavy's because Middleweight sparring partners cant take his punch? Isn't Triple G now top 3 P4P? If your answer to all those is yes then he is required by any educated boxing fan to move his azz up to 168 and prove he is worth all the gloating!!

[kafkod]

G isn't doing what B-hop did at all. Trinidad AND ODLH were already MW champs when Hopkins fought them. Both also had many great wins and were p4p fighters when they lost to Hopkins. Brook has never fought above 147 and has one good win and a whole bunch of tomato cans on his record. Ward and Lara have been calling G out for over a year now. But G won't even consider facing an elite "boxer" and instead has someone with one decent win in his career jump up TWO weight classes! Hopkins always said he would fight RJJ also, he wanted a 50-50 split. RJJ always wanted more. Now when Ward not only called out G but even send him a contract, G said "NO. But maybe in a couple of years." lol. Also Joppy, Echols, and Johnson were all better than anyone G has ever faced as a pro. Fighting a welterweight and fighting a middleweight are not "exactly" the same thing. In fact it is a two division difference! G is a great talent, but he is obviously afraid to try and prove he is great and instead picks easy victories.

If Ward and Lara's promoters had done what Eddie Hearn did, and offered GGG $3/4 million to fight their guys, those fights would have happened by now.

[Code Red]

Did you know that SRL moved up from welterweight to fight Hagler?

Did you know that prime Hagler also defended his middleweight title against another welterweight ... Tommy Hearns, and a lightweight .. Roberto Duran?

Did you know that BHop spent 10 YEARS unifying the middleweight division before moving up to 175?

And none of what you wrote bears any semblance to Hagler vs 3 fighters considered ATG's moving up to challenge the throne. Kell Brook is none of the above!!!

And BHOP was never described as the hardest puncher in boxing, the most feared fighter in boxing, or even in his prime. He was always said to fight like an old man, especially when he first drew fame against Tito!!

[kafkod]

So did you criticise Andre Ward for trying to get Golovkin to move up for him when there were no fights to be had at 168?

Thought not.

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[kafkod]

And none of what you wrote bears any semblance to Hagler vs 3 fighters considered ATG's moving up to challenge the throne. Kell Brook is none of the above!!!

So Brook can't be bracketed with Hearns, Duran or SRL. But you have no problem bracketing GGG with Hagler when it fits your agenda.

[Jsmooth9876]

Oscar and Trinidad both beat MW's before facing Hopkins, or did you conveniently forget that fact before you became a **** gobbling moron?

Oh yeah.... Oscars great win over Sturm( which he lost handily) and that thrilling Joppy win for Tito...

Oh and blow me