GGG Finally Getting What He Wants

[Code Red]

...so how old was hopkins when he moved th 175? He was older than ggg by the time he fought trinidad and had over 40 fights already. Not saying ggg is gonna hang around til he's 50, but it's convenient to judge the merits of their careers when one is retired and the other is just starting to get notoriety.

Exactly, they thought B hop was old and past prime, he was, and they couldn't take him.....they failed. Even Hagler was perceived to be past prime vs Ray Leonard. Golovkin is smack in the midst of his prime and continues to fight underwhelming opponents, his only option for greatness is to move up and beat the best at 168 and 175.....that's the only way he'll ever compare to a BHop!

[Code Red]

Because they hate Golovkin. Whatever he does or doesn't do is wrong to those arseholes.

If he'd signed to fight Anthony Joshua on Sky PPV instead of Brook, they would be murdering him now for ducking Wilder. And Ward, of course. Can't leave him out. Lol.

Nah we wouldn't.criticize I legit opponent but that is what you've done with Mayweather for unspeakable years....you say he's done nothing I say he's done more than any fighter the past 20 years!

[Real King Kong]

Exactly, they thought B hop was old and past prime, he was, and they couldn't take him.....they failed. Even Hagler was perceived to be past prime vs Ray Leonard. Golovkin is smack in the midst of his prime and continues to fight underwhelming opponents, his only option for greatness is to move up and beat the best at 168 and 175.....that's the only way he'll ever compare to a BHop!

Yea maybe...but at this point, his best chance for the type of fight that will put him over like trinidad did for hopkins, is to wait for canelo. These guys wanna make money at the end of the day...while we might consider it great for him to move up to 168, at this point it's going backwards in terms of money fights.

[jqSide]

Nah we wouldn't.criticize I legit opponent but that is what you've done with Mayweather for unspeakable years....you say he's done nothing I say he's done more than any fighter the past 20 years!

Nobody ducked your hero doe. Apples and chicken.

[techliam]

There wasn't a single fighter who would turn down a Floyd. Not one

Even Ward and Hopkins talked about it, knowing full well it probably won't happen. Same for Golovkin.

The Brook fight is a disgrace. Surely any middleweight would be better.

But I really don't understand the fixation of certain posters on here, of wanting Golovkin to move up so badly. 168 is pretty poor itself. Two two best fighters there haven't looked special, and look set for a showdown.

Golovkin is 1 fight away from being the first Undisputed champion in a decade. Let him achieve that, then he can move divisions. If anything though, i'd like to see him at 154, it looks more achievable considering Golovkin would be severely undersized at 168

[Dr.Cool]

So he's doing exactly what Hopkins did ? Waiting on Oscar and Trinadad to make their way up from 147. And we know how that guys career ended up...

G isn't doing what B-hop did at all. Trinidad AND ODLH were already MW champs when Hopkins fought them. Both also had many great wins and were p4p fighters when they lost to Hopkins. Brook has never fought above 147 and has one good win and a whole bunch of tomato cans on his record. Ward and Lara have been calling G out for over a year now. But G won't even consider facing an elite "boxer" and instead has someone with one decent win in his career jump up TWO weight classes! Hopkins always said he would fight RJJ also, he wanted a 50-50 split. RJJ always wanted more. Now when Ward not only called out G but even send him a contract, G said "NO. But maybe in a couple of years." lol. Also Joppy, Echols, and Johnson were all better than anyone G has ever faced as a pro. Fighting a welterweight and fighting a middleweight are not "exactly" the same thing. In fact it is a two division difference! G is a great talent, but he is obviously afraid to try and prove he is great and instead picks easy victories.

[bojangles1987]

If he's having so much difficulty making fights with "middleweights worth a damn" then why is he still at 160? People talk shot about Floyd but I recall when he couldn't get fights with Nas, Frietas, Cotto, Hatton he moved up in weight, he didn't just sit there at 135, 140 waiting for somebody from a lower weight class to give him an opportunity, he went up and took it!

Golovkin has shown no ambition to take glory, he just sitting around letting his fans build his legend while his resume underwhelme!

He holds three titles and just got a PPV fight last year. K2 did a terrific job building him up to the position he is currently in, which is as one of the biggest names in boxing. People like to pretend otherwise, but it's true.

Again, you're trying to use one terrible year to justify an opinion that Golovkin has never tried to make good fights and isn't interested in making them, because he's happy to be a fraud and pretend he is ducked. In the span of 3 years Golovkin went from a nobody that couldn't even get a top 10 contender into the ring to one of the bigger names in boxing and one belt from being undisputed MW champion. Until recently he did everything right.

Mayweather moved up over the years because he turned pro much younger than Golovkin and grew in weight as he aged. That's why 99% of pro boxers move up in weight. He did take chances at 154, and he deserves a ton of credit for that. Golovkin turned pro later and hasn't grown out of his divison. And let's not pretend Golovkin hasn't tried to make fights at 168. He has, multiple times, and those fights fell through. That is not Golovkin's fault.

So let's stop blaming Golovkin for things that aren't his fault and let's also stop pretending two non-fan friendly decisions invalidate all the trouble he has gone through to land big fights. There is plenty enough blame to put on him for things that actually are his fault, like the shameless way they went about the Andre Ward issue and this fight against an unproven welterweight.

[Dr.Cool]

Yea maybe...but at this point, his best chance for the type of fight that will put him over like trinidad did for hopkins, is to wait for canelo. These guys wanna make money at the end of the day...while we might consider it great for him to move up to 168, at this point it's going backwards in terms of money fights.

What?!? Fighting Ward, DeGale, Dirrell would make G less than fighting Lemieux or Rubio??? If G wanted a big money fight he would be fighting Canelo at a CW in September. Hopkins fought ODLH at a CW. Canelo fought Floyd at a CW. Bottom line is G and Loeffler said for years anyone from 154-168. Well, there is Canelo at 155, Lara at 160, and Ward at 168. But instead he goes for a welterweight? If G wanted the money he would be fighting Canelo. He would rather keep collecting $2 mill a fight with little to no risk. That's fine, but just say it and don't act like everyone is scared of you so you have to fight guys two divisions lower.

[Code Red]

What?!? Fighting Ward, DeGale, Dirrell would make G less than fighting Lemieux or Rubio??? If G wanted a big money fight he would be fighting Canelo at a CW in September. Hopkins fought ODLH at a CW. Canelo fought Floyd at a CW. Bottom line is G and Loeffler said for years anyone from 154-168. Well, there is Canelo at 155, Lara at 160, and Ward at 168. But instead he goes for a welterweight? If G wanted the money he would be fighting Canelo. He would rather keep collecting $2 mill a fight with little to no risk. That's fine, but just say it and don't act like everyone is scared of you so you have to fight guys two divisions lower.

As much as Caneloweight annoys me you are right, if Golovkin wants a money fight that bad then he should of dropped to 155 and fought Saul in September......even moreso now that he is fighting a welterweight at 160!

[SkillspayBills]

So he's doing exactly what Hopkins did ? Waiting on Oscar and Trinadad to make their way up from 147. And we know how that guys career ended up...

Oscar and Trinidad both beat MW's before facing Hopkins, or did you conveniently forget that fact before you became a **** gobbling moron?