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  • LoadedWraps
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    #121
    Originally posted by larryxxx...
    Only thing that gets me wit that is..no floyd fan said it was great but somehow its a great win when Bradley and Manny beat an even older Marquez
    Comon man be consistent. You might not think highly about that fight,

    but I am one of the biggest Floyd fans on here after you, and I will always say that's a quality win for Floyd. JMM is a huge win for anyone, people want to bring up weight disparities when it's convenient - it's a fight by fight basis.

    The way Floyd outboxed JMM, that happens whether JMM is the bigger fighter, Floyd is the smaller fighter, they are the same size, they could both be featherweights, they could both be HW. IT DOESN'T MATTER, the way Floyd outboxed him, that's a mastery of science over one of the greatest counter-punchers ever.

    And people want to play it down because JMM came in the smaller guy, people who say that don't know boxing.

    You aren't taking an easier fight or ducking someone if the more lucrative, and/or more challenging fight happens to be someone in a lower weight class. If size was everything then guys like Roman, and even Pac and Floyd when they were at the top of the p4p list would never be #1 because using that logic they aren't better than anyone in divisions above them.

    If there is one thing I will always be is unbiased, and JMM is a great win, and GGG doesn't deserve flak for fighting Brook either, and that doesn't mean we still don't want him to fight Canelo or Ward, but those fights aren't happening yet so better a fighter fight anyone than noone.

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    • Mr.Fantastic
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      #122
      Originally posted by larryxxx...
      Only thing that gets me wit that is..no floyd fan said it was great but somehow its a great win when Bradley and Manny beat an even older Marquez
      Pacquiao has won against Marquez before Marquez lost to Floyd.

      Yes some fans did make a big deal out of Floyd beating Marquez. Don't lie to yourself.

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        #123
        Originally posted by -Hyperion-
        it's not the same thing. Canelo had options for one. We KNEW Khan had a glass chin while Brook is not only bigger and stronger but a bit of an unknown quantity, which leaves a bit of intrigue. And I'm not a Golovkin fan, I don't even think he's that good but this fight is not all that bad considering the options available, that's all....I do think the people who ignore all the details that led to this(GGG avoided by Canelo-Jacobs-Saunders-Eubank) are BLATANTLY BIASED...
        Yeah, it's funny how the Golovkin haters either ignore that he was ducked or make excuses for the duckers, just to try to bash him. "But, but, Canelo's the "A" side doe, Golovkin shouldn't have a problem fighting him with virtually one hand tied behind his back." "Cotto's too small for him doe. The fact that he held a MW belt is irrelevant doe" "The Eubanks never saw a contract to sign, Hearn's lying about them making outrageous demands doe." "Ward turned HBO down to fight Golovkin? How do we know that's true doe?"

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        • M Bison
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          #124
          Originally posted by SkillspayBills
          My problem with these BLATANT disgusting hypocrits is all the excuses they come up with when it is a fighter they are a fan of. If Canelo did the sa........actually Canelo did the same thing and THEY WERE THE FIRST to criticize him. No one on this site has any damn shame? ****ing pathetic.
          Well maybe we wouldn't have you complaining If Ward stepped up to the challenge when he was first offered or If he wouldn't make us wait 4 pointless fights to get the fight lel.
          Say it once I'll say it again you just mad that GGG is taking over and he is gonna get a better PPV than lil Ward who can't even fight outside of the US lmfao!!!!!!!!!!!!
          HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA YOUR TEARSSSS!!

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          • daggum
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            #125
            honestly where are the real champs in boxing? only guy we got left is broner

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            • ИATAS
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              #126
              Originally posted by SkillspayBills
              My problem with these BLATANT disgusting hypocrits is all the excuses they come up with when it is a fighter they are a fan of. If Canelo did the sa........actually Canelo did the same thing and THEY WERE THE FIRST to criticize him. No one on this site has any damn shame? ****ing pathetic.
              Wait a second man, I have criticized this fight since it was announced, it's a mismatch and I don't like it one bit. I don't care who Canelo fights my problem was he made a deal with Golovkin to fight after the extension he asked for, he chose Khan, fine whatever, the problem is he reneged on their agreement, dropped his belt and ducked the fight entirely. As a boxing fan, that's disgraceful. He lied to the boxing world and sold the Khan fight with the premise he was fighting GGG after.

              Golovkin is fighting Brook as a result of not being able to fight Canelo, Saunders, Jacobs and then Eubank. Can you see the difference here at all? He tried to fight at least four other middleweights before settling on Hearn's second offer in Brook. Canelo, he could have fought anyone he wanted, he chose Khan not because he didn't have other options but because he wanted to. That wouldn't be so bad so long as he fought Golovkin after, which he told everyone he was going to. Like Andre Ward for example, he's fighting some old guy next and no one cares you know why? Because he's fighting Kovalev immediately after. So having a mismatch fight doesn't matter because we know he's signed a contract to fight Kovalev. Canelo reneged on the agreement, lied in his post fight interview and press conference. That's the difference.

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              • Weltschmerz
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                #127
                We shouldn't forget GGG is traveling to the UK for this one... just saying.

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                  #128
                  Originally posted by larryxxx...
                  Hagler and Monzon fought in a era when there was no 168 division....Hopkins was slammed in his career for fighting smaller fighters as well, but he jumped 2 divisions at 40
                  Hopkins was lauded for his Tito win, it arguably made him p4p no. 1 at the time.

                  So, no 168? Many top middleweights would move to 175, it was quite regular at the time.

                  Learn something.

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                  • Larry the boss
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                    #129
                    Originally posted by soul_survivor
                    Hopkins was lauded for his Tito win, it arguably made him p4p no. 1 at the time.

                    So, no 168? Many top middleweights would move to 175, it was quite regular at the time.

                    Learn something.
                    Learn something?? lol now thats a good one..It was a much harder transition to move up 15 pounds then moving up 8 pounds now. And Yes Hopkins is always slammed by people saying all his best wins were against smaller fighters moving up...

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                    • Don Pichardo
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                      #130
                      Originally posted by Weltschmerz
                      We shouldn't forget GGG is traveling to the UK for this one... just saying.
                      Why it's not going to make the fight any harder for him. Brook getting smoked like British ****ers.

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