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  • Fists_of_Fury
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    #21
    Floyd bum your girl or something? Why you so mad bro?

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    • b00g13man
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      #22
      Originally posted by Fists_of_Fury
      Floyd bum your girl or something? Why you so mad bro?
      I was about to say.

      Not sure if he's trying to convince us or himself with the spam posts.

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      • soul_survivor
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        #23
        Jones was terrific but the greatest? Cmon now lol

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        • Sweet Jones
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          #24
          Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
          I totally disagree..... When they fought, toney had been around for years in high profile fights vs nunn, mccallum, Barkley, and headlined a lot of major televised cards and was very high on every p4p list? And if memory serves me, he was the betting favorite over roy. Roy really hadn't beaten any "name" fighters or had been in any real big fights.. The hopkins fight wasn't big at all as hopkins and jones were both hardly known.. It was on the undercard of bowe-fergeson, to show how little of a fight it was.. Everyone knew roy had amazing potential, but he really hadnt fully realized stardom yet

          Toney-roy was much like manny-barrera... A legit p4p champ getting dethroned by a faster more exciting fighter just hitting the big time.. The toney fight turned roy into a star, much like how manny became a star after beating barrera
          Respectfully, you appear to be conflating 'resume' with 'recognition'. I'm not dis*****g whether Toney had the better resume at the time they fought. I'm dis*****g the notion that RJJ was just someone known to hardcore boxing fans only at the time.

          RJJ was THE crown ***el of the 88 Olympic Team at a time when that was still the primary launching point for a boxer's career and the main introduction of a fighter to the public. Everybody on the planet, including casuals, knew his name based on his performance and that robbery. If you weren't around then, it's hard to explain just how big that story was, even outside of boxing circles.

          RJJ was already being talked about as the 'next big thing' in boxing and outside of it before the Toney fight, in the vein of a Sugar Ray Leonard combo type of skill, power, flash, in-ring charisma, looks and 'marketability'.

          Hell, I saw the RJJ/Hopkins fight with my girlfriend and her aunt because they wanted to see the 'cute dude' fight. Gave no fucxs about the Bowe fight that night.

          Again, I'm not dis*****g that the Toney performance launched RJJ into another stratosphere. But it was more like the Mayweather Corrales fight: the fulfillment of expected promise of a fighter people already knew rather that some 'who's-that-guy' deal. Everybody, including casuals, knew RJJ had 'supernova' potential from day 1.

          For all of Toney's accomplishments, it's no accident that RJJ was (IIRC) his first PPV. (FYI - Toney was ranked p4p #2 going into that fight. RJJ was #3. )
          Last edited by Sweet Jones; 07-02-2016, 12:04 PM.

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          • boxingfan91
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            #25
            Lol Didnt Roy get caught using steroids?

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            • Larry the boss
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              #26
              Roy was last generation man

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              • NChristo
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                #27
                Originally posted by Sun_Tzu
                Roy Jones was known only by some real hard core mfers. I was one of those hardcore mfers.
                He was 1/2 of a huge scandal at the Seoul Olympics that was covered pretty much everywhere.
                Roy was well known since before he turned professional, jus sayin.

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                • kilojay505
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Sun_Tzu
                  And it started here.



                  James Toney was a monster when this fight went down. Roy Jones was known only by some real hard core mfers. I was one of those hardcore mfers. Im going to be honest, Roy had knocked everyone out but one to this point. I thought if he dont get him Toney is going to walk him down. I watched a star born on this night, i saw a legend born. There will be many who disagree with me but I dont think there is any one who can beat Roy at his best. I truly think at his best there has never been any one who could beat him.

                  I mean anyone you can name from the beginning, Roy would make a fool out of them. P4P Roy makes them look dumb, there really is no argument.
                  Toney was 220 weeks before the fight and had to loose 20lbs days prior to the fight. He wasnt eating or hydrating properly. Thats no excuse though he's a professional and shoild have been at a healthy fight weight the time of the fight but you cant act like this didnt affect his performance

                  Originally posted by Sun_Tzu
                  Tarver lost the first fight and there really isnt any debate, it was close yes but he didnt win for *** sake. How many times has Tarver been popped for doping you dumb twat.

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                  Roy also tested + for peds against hall so..... your point is invalid

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                  • IronDanHamza
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                    #29
                    I'd say Roy Jones was more of the generation before this one. And I'd agree in saying he was the best.

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                    • IronDanHamza
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by kilojay505
                      Toney was 220 weeks before the fight and had to loose 20lbs days prior to the fight. He wasnt eating or hydrating properly. Thats no excuse though he's a professional and shoild have been at a healthy fight weight the time of the fight but you cant act like this didnt affect his performance



                      Roy also tested + for peds against hall so..... your point is invalid
                      When was that ever not the case for Toney?

                      What makes the Roy Jones fight any different?

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