Comments Thread For: SHO's Espinoza: Canelo-GGG in "Fall 2017" Was To Stop Bleeding

[bigdunny1]

Trinidad was a legit JRMW. He was fighting guys like B-hop and was actually coming in lighter. Canelo is coming in heavier than some MW, specifically the one everyone wanted him to fight.

You have no clue what he comes in at using guesses and old unofficial network weights which John molina made look ****** after his Ruslan fight when asked about his announced fight night weight. He said that's BS no way I weight that much you guys weighed me with all my clothes, jeans, phone, keys and everything else in my pockets. But let's put that crap aside and pretend those numbers are acurate then Maidana was 1 pound lighter according to showtime unofficial scales when he fought Floyd then Canelo was when he fought Floyd. So is maidana a middleweight too you f ING clown?

[Shadoww702]

I know its not a mismatch. S*cks that this fight aint happening. I doubt it will too. GGG will have to move up cause MWs are shook right now. 168 is waiting on him. He will have to grow some balls and go for it cause nothing good will happen for him at 160

Thanks! But when he dropped below Caneloweight I knew I was ***ED!!!!

[Don Pichardo]

Anyone who understands the game should be aware that boxing has ALWAYS worked that way.

A fighters purse used to be the total sum of the bet placed between the two participants.

Before financiers/backers, who eventually evolved into modern-day promoters, fighters used to bet THEIR OWN MONEY, so you can bet your life that it was all about risk/reward..... wealthy fighters made the biggest fights, but they only became wealthy because they were successful..... and because nobody could be trusted, the purse (the bet between the combatants) would be tied to a stake and hoisted up next to the ring, so that both fighters could always see the money.

Hence the poker-term " stake-money ".

And yet, somehow you managed to blame Mayweather for all that LMAO, which kinda tells me where you're coming from.

Funnily enough - and I have been following this sport for more than 30 years - 2 celebrated fighters who were most subject to risk/reward decisions are clearly Pacquiao and Golovkin.

I know exactly why Pac refused to fight the #1 ranked Mosley who had just KTFO Margarito TWICE, but had no problem fighting him when it became obvious that he was shot..... and I know exactly why Pac refused to rematch his #1 option Cotto at 150, despite having beaten him previously and despite Cotto being his best available payday.

Don't know how anyone who was paying attention could see it any different.

Put it this way, after saying this for FOUR YEARS..... "I can beat anyone from 154-168"..... why do you think that Golovkin demanded 164 for Ward, and 160 for Canelo, and then WALKED AWAY when they did not meet his demands?

Tell me why YOU think Golovkin walked away from that huge payday and that desperately needed exposure instead of negotiating with Canelo, especially after talking all that 154-168 crap?

Best got damn post I read I'm a long time. Props. Shame I can't green u up. Apparently i green't you already. Your on fire today son

[bigdunny1]

What the **** is he if not a MW. A 155 pound fighter? There is no 155 weight class. That is middleweight.

That is pretty ****ing simple. Anything above 147 to 154 is JRMW.

Anything Above 154 to 160 is Middleweight.

155 is not JRMW, it is MW. Canelo came in weighting 174 for Angulo. He comes in heavier than GGG at MW. So yes, Canelo is a MW, he just is too scared to accept it.

And Wade was a mandatory ranked at 2 by IBF, the title GGG just won. He would have loved to fight Canelo instead, but that biiiitch decided to Fight a ww.

No he is a Jr middleweight who fought at a catch weight of 155 against other Jr middlweights. Never weighed 160 or faced a 160lb fighter in his entire career and clearly can still make 154 hence his next fight is for a world championship at jr middlweight. And did you really just bring up ibf rankings? I'm talking 3rd party non bias rankings you dumb f uck he was no where on ESPN, RING you choose none had him as a top 10 ranked middleweight. You provided smith RING ranking but when asked about wade you ignore RING ranking? Hmm wonder why. BECAUSE HE WASN'T THERE.

[Progrssive_Jedi]

You have no clue what he comes in at using guesses and old unofficial network weights which John molina made look ****** after his Ruslan fight when asked about his announced fight night weight. He said that's BS no way I weight that much you guys weighed me with all my clothes, jeans, phone, keys and everything else in my pockets. But let's put that crap aside and pretend those numbers are acurate then Maidana was 1 pound lighter according to showtime unofficial scales when he fought Floyd then Canelo was when he fought Floyd. So is maidana a middleweight too you f ING clown?

Yea, those network weight are likely wrong, he actually probably adds even more water weight after they weight him before a fight. But yes, GGG has come in under Canelo

And not only that, GGG is lighter at the 30 and 7 day out weigh ins. Canelo is heavier 30 days out when fighting at 155 than GGG is when fighting at 160.

There is a reason that now Canelo has taken to hiding his unofficial fight night weight.

[Progrssive_Jedi]

No he is a Jr middleweight who fought at a catch weight of 155 against other Jr middlweights. Never weighed 160 or faced a 160lb fighter in his entire career and clearly can still make 154 hence his next fight is for a world championship at jr middlweight. And did you really just bring up ibf rankings? I'm talking 3rd party non bias rankings you dumb f uck he was no where on ESPN, RING you choose none had him as a top 10 ranked middleweight. You provided smith RING ranking but ignore RING ranking for wade? Hmm wonder why.

No, he is not a JRMW. He last made 154 or lower when he fought Floyd in 2013.

When he fought Angulo, he missed 154. He paid Angulo 100K because of it.

Ever since then he has fougth at 155, which is not JRMW. JRMW stops at 154. MW starts at 155. That makes him a MW.

Sure, it makes him a MW who has fought only JRMW and WW, but nevertheless he is a MW.

[HeroBando]

Best got damn post I read I'm a long time. Props. Shame I can't green u up. Apparently i green't you already. Your on fire today son

I cant believe that super idiot has groupies, wow. Thats NSB for you. Are you sure you bothered to read that pile of ****? So what did you like about it?

[Progrssive_Jedi]

You provided smith RING ranking but when asked about wade you ignore RING ranking? Hmm wonder why. BECAUSE HE WASN'T THERE.

I didn't ignore Ring ranking of wade, What I said was GGG wanted to be fighting Canelo or Suanders for their titles.

Canelo can choose anyone he wants, everyone from 147-168 would step in the ring with him.

GGG does not have that luxury. He had a mandatory and did it rather than vacate the title.

GGG is being told by every top MW that he has to wait a year or so. See the difference here.

[Progrssive_Jedi]

No he is a Jr middleweight who fought at a catch weight of 155 against other Jr middlweights.

Not only is he not a JRMW, Ring Magazine, who is owned by Golden Boy, has him ranked as their number 1 Middleweight.

Why, because he has been fighting at MW for two years.

http://******.craveonline.com/ratings/middleweight

[bigdunny1]

Yea, those network weight are likely wrong, he actually probably adds even more water weight after they weight him before a fight. But yes, GGG has come in under Canelo

And not only that, GGG is lighter at the 30 and 7 day out weigh ins. Canelo is heavier 30 days out when fighting at 155 than GGG is when fighting at 160.

There is a reason that now Canelo has taken to hiding his unofficial fight night weight.

If he's lighter then it should be him moving down to fight canelo because if canelo can make 154 and 155 then GGG should too right? Why won't he move down? And again since maidana was the same damn size as canelo on fight night then is he a middleweight too? Or do phony guesses on a fighters fight night weight only matter for canelo? Or for everyone else we judge what their fighting weight is by the weight the fight is contracted at?