Comments Thread For: Froch: Golovkin Rejected Terms, I'd Walk Through DeGale in 5 or 6

[robertzimmerman]

Cool, thanks for the update ^^



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See how easy that was



FACT: Froch IS a legend
FACT: lil'G wants to be a called a legend, for doing nothing

Here you are again with the Lil g comments.

How do you think you look when you make those comments whilst referring to someone else as fan boy loser at the same time?

Let me tell you:

It makes you look like an absolute idiot.

In case you weren't aware, GG's career isn't over yet. So instead of criticising his every move, why don't you just sit back and see how things play out.

[aboutfkntime]

aboutfkntime,

Of course it's BS to you.

Take a look at your posts.

You don't want a debate.

I must be ****** for wasting my time with you.

Look how emotional your posts are.

You're not interested in any circumstances or anything.

You're full of hate.

Yeah, I understand. But for the right fight, if the timing is right.

Of course context is required.

I couldn't care less if you believe that I'm a fan of Andre's.

Look at you:

"Lil G, Team Bull****" etc.

Is that the behaviour of a guy who wants an objective debate?

We can all post links. You've posted one of many. If you looked objectively, you'd see that the timing wasn't right for these two guys to meet.

I know this.

I obviously just emphasised Andre's comments to give you some perspective. I was making a point.

Why are you so obsessed with his comments?

Are you really telling me that you think he literally meant ANYONE from those weights?

Again, he was obviously making a reference to Floyd. Everyone knows that.

Now would you like to tell me how potentially dropping to 154 to fight Floyd, is the same as being forced to defend 2 of your MW titles at a CW?

Are you seriously telling me that due to the comments that he made, that he should have dropped to 155 for Canelo, even though it's against the rules of boxing, it was a huge unification, he was the mandatory to the lineal belt, and he had the full backing of the WBC?

Are things really that black and white to you?

It's absolutely baffling that you hold GG responsible for the Canelo fight not taking place next.

What a joke.

Again, your hate has blinded you

You are real DUMB, for saying that LMAO

Loeffler, Sanchez, and Golovkin, OBVIOUSLY made that insinuation, and they made it for FOUR YEARS!!

Fk's sake you tool, how can you misinterpret this.....
" Golovkin is willing to fight any man from 154 to 168..... "

They even said this.....
" Golovkin Would Fight Ward at 168 and Canelo at 154....."

Let's hear your " context " for that, Mr Objectivity LMAO

Fk off you dishonest clown, go peddle that dribble to the fanboys.

A mature, objective, reasonable, adult would hold a grown man responsible/accountable for his words and actions..... and a fanboy would give him a free-pass.

Guess what you did ?

Golovkin built his reputation by running around for FOUR YEARS claiming that he can beat "anyone from 154-168".....

2012
Golovkin is willing to fight any man from 154 to 168.....
http://articles.latimes.com/2012/dec...ovkin-20121201

2013
Golovkin Would Fight Ward at 168 and Canelo at 154.....
http://thaboxingvoice.com/golovkin-a...4/15398?var=no

2014
nobody at 154 or 160 could go twelve rounds.....
http://www.latinpost.com/articles/26...guel-cotto.htm

2015
GGG says ''154 - 168 is easy''.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgoinrsIWww

2016
Nobody From 154-168 Goes Twelve With GGG.....
http://www.boxingscene.com/golovkins...th-ggg--105365

[aboutfkntime]

Give me your opinion on Golovkin's quest after Hopkin's record for middleweight title defences.

Let's find out what we are really dealing with here, Mr Objectivity......

My opinion on GG's quest to break Bernard's record?

Seeing as though he's not a huge MW, it's a prestigious division, and he's had these goals set for a long time, then I have to respect it. His ambitions are no different to any other fighters at their respected weight classes. He's only doing what a guy like James DeGale is doing at SMW.

I'm aware that he hasn't he got a great resume and that the fans are frustrated, but I also know that Canelo, Jacobs and Saunders don't want to fight him, all of who would be good fights.

Hopefully, he will be able to get those fights. But if he can't, I think he should definitely move up to SMW. Personally, I think he should give it another year and then make a decision.

I'd love to see fights against the likes of DeGale, Ramirez and even Callum Smith who should be in the mix with the best next year. All those fights would intrigue me. But I don't think he'll commit to the division until he's either achieved his MW goals or he finds that they aren't possible to achieve.

What you haven't taken into account with his comments that he made 3-4 years ago, is that over time circumstances change. And if you can't appreciate that, then you're completely ignorant.

When you've only got one belt in a division, you're a lot more open to moving up or down for the right fight. But when you've got 3 belts and you're looking for the 4th and final one, you aren't.

He was looking at Chavez and Froch as potential opponents last year, but as soon as he added the IBF belt and was made the mandatory to the winner of Cotto-Canelo, he backed off. He now has mandatory obligations from 3 of the 4 Org's. When you're in that position, it's much harder to move up and down in weight. You have less freedom and you've got more to lose. Again, if you can't appreciate that then you're completely ignorant and I've got no respect for you.

In his current position, he probably wouldn't even consider a SMW fight unless it was an opportunity that was just too good to turn down. Yet you can't appreciate any of this. In boxing, an awful lot can happen within a 3-4 year period. Andre Ward's circumstances have also changed a hell of a lot over the past 3-4 years. After he won the Super Six, nobody could have predicted that he'd have ended up fighting a guy like Paul Smith after 19 months of inactivity due to injury and contractual disputes.


Please don't bother replying back to me unless you're going to be reasonable.

For goodness sake, it was a simple question, and yet you started answering it by using a ridiculous, completely irrelevant, childish excuse.

" he small doe "

GTFOH, we are talking about middleweight history here

I don't hear anyone making weak excuses for Hagler, Monzon, Hopkins ???

NO genuine boxing fan would give Golovkin a FREE-PASS to beat Hopkins record by defending an INTERIM title against low-level opponents.

As I said, you cannot give Jacobs any credit whatsoever for making legitimate title defences..... because Golovkin is the REAL WBA champ.

Jacobs and Golovkin OBVIOUSLY cannot start racking up WBA middleweight defences AT THE SAME TIME..... can they?

So, if Jacobs second-rate title "defences" are not legitimate, then obviously Golovkin's second-rate title "defences" are not legitimate either.

You don't appear to be reasonable, knowledgeable, OR objective.

[robertzimmerman]

You are real DUMB, for saying that LMAO

Loeffler, Sanchez, and Golovkin, OBVIOUSLY made that insinuation, and they made it for FOUR YEARS!!

Fk's sake you tool, how can you misinterpret this.....
" Golovkin is willing to fight any man from 154 to 168..... "

They even said this.....
" Golovkin Would Fight Ward at 168 and Canelo at 154....."

Let's hear your " context " for that, Mr Objectivity LMAO

Fk off you dishonest clown, go peddle that dribble to the fanboys.

A mature, objective, reasonable, adult would hold a grown man responsible/accountable for his words and actions..... and a fanboy would give him a free-pass.

Guess what you did ?

This is completely pointless because you're behaving like a small child.

I haven't even got an ounce of respect for you now.

You are a joke.

No intelligent person who wants an objective debate uses the vocabulary that you do.

It's just embarrassing.

How many times are you going to write:

"Lil G, Team BS, dribbling fanboys" etc?

You're full of hate.

What's the point in even coming on to a forum if you don't even want a debate?


Read this carefully:

I KNOW WHAT HE SAID.

But I'm smart enough to know that comments like that shouldn't be taken LITERALLY, and that a fighters CIRCUMSTANCES CONSTANTLY CHANGE.

What are you going to say if Andre never ends up at HW?

[Vasyl’s dad]

Take a good look lil g fans... this is what a real man and a real fighter looks like.

Oh, you mean a guy who never moved up?

[robertzimmerman]

For goodness sake, it was a simple question, and yet you started answering it by using a ridiculous, completely irrelevant, childish excuse.

" he small doe "

GTFOH, we are talking about middleweight history here

I don't hear anyone making weak excuses for Hagler, Monzon, Hopkins ???

NO genuine boxing fan would give Golovkin a FREE-PASS to beat Hopkins record by defending an INTERIM title against low-level opponents.

As I said, you cannot give Jacobs any credit whatsoever for making legitimate title defences..... because Golovkin is the REAL WBA champ.

Jacobs and Golovkin OBVIOUSLY cannot start racking up WBA middleweight defences AT THE SAME TIME..... can they?

So, if Jacobs second-rate title "defences" are not legitimate, then obviously Golovkin's second-rate title "defences" are not legitimate either.

You don't appear to be reasonable, knowledgeable, OR objective.

Again, what's the point?

How can me noting that he's not a huge MW be irrelevant exactly?

What the hell are you talking about?


Bernard's record doesn't mean anything to me. I don't think it should be greatly respected. He's a big guy who made incredible sacrifices to make weight in a weak division, when he could have moved up to SMW and LHW much earlier than he did. He's 6'1 with a 75" reach and he had a size advantage over almost all of his opponents. He also started his career at CW and had loads of fights over the MW limit. So in my honest opinion, it's nothing really to shout about.

Now did I say that I'd celebrate if GG matched his resume? No I didn't. All I said was that I have to respect his wishes to remain at MW seeing as though he didn't have the size advantage of Bernard and he's had these goals ever since he turned pro.

As you know, boxing today is a complete shambles. It's an absolute disgrace that there's 2 WBA champs that go hand in hand with 3 other Org's. It makes me sick. Nobody wants 4 belts in each division. We've got Silver champs, Super champs and interim champs etc and again it's sickening. I want to see the return of 2 main Org's, 15 round fights, less divisions and same day weigh-ins. So if GG does match Bernard's record it won't mean a damn thing to me. Again, I won't be celebrating it. But again, I have to respect his wishes to dominate his division. I can't heavily criticise him when again, he's not a huge MW, SMW isn't really that strong, and his goals are no different to any other fighters. Criticising GG for staying at MW, would be like jumping on DeGale and demanding that he moves up to LHW. That's just one example of many I could give.

Basically, you're just looking for an argument. I've told you that I'd like to see GG eventually move to SMW, and I honestly think that he will at some point.


Now this is the last time I'm going to tell you this:

If you want a proper debate, then stop acting childish and I'll gladly debate with you for as long as you want.

But if you're going to reply back with the typical "fanboy dribble" etc, then don't bother.

I come on here in my spare time to enjoy myself, not to have playground arguments.

Don't waste my time.

[RussB23]

lol froch posted a pic of himself flexing with the caption "too big and too strong for GGG", then retired right after. just stfu froch

[Szef]

Oh, you mean a guy who never moved up?

[aboutfkntime]

This is completely pointless because you're behaving like a small child.

I haven't even got an ounce of respect for you now.

You are a joke.

No intelligent person who wants an objective debate uses the vocabulary that you do.

It's just embarrassing.

How many times are you going to write:

"Lil G, Team BS, dribbling fanboys" etc?

You're full of hate.

What's the point in even coming on to a forum if you don't even want a debate?


Read this carefully:

I KNOW WHAT HE SAID.

But I'm smart enough to know that comments like that shouldn't be taken LITERALLY, and that a fighters CIRCUMSTANCES CONSTANTLY CHANGE.

What are you going to say if Andre never ends up at HW?

go fk yourself

you can't even be honest about this.....

" Golovkin is willing to fight any man from 154 to 168..... "
" Golovkin Would Fight Ward at 168 and Canelo at 154....."


I am not interested in having an " objective ", but dishonest, debate with you..... it is clearly obvious what Team Golovkin were insinuating.

I don't have an ounce of respect for a grown man who doesn't object to being lied to.

[aboutfkntime]

Again, what's the point?

How can me noting that he's not a huge MW be irrelevant exactly?

What the hell are you talking about?


Bernard's record doesn't mean anything to me. I don't think it should be greatly respected. He's a big guy who made incredible sacrifices to make weight in a weak division, when he could have moved up to SMW and LHW much earlier than he did. He's 6'1 with a 75" reach and he had a size advantage over almost all of his opponents. He also started his career at CW and had loads of fights over the MW limit. So in my honest opinion, it's nothing really to shout about.

Now did I say that I'd celebrate if GG matched his resume? No I didn't. All I said was that I have to respect his wishes to remain at MW seeing as though he didn't have the size advantage of Bernard and he's had these goals ever since he turned pro.

As you know, boxing today is a complete shambles. It's an absolute disgrace that there's 2 WBA champs that go hand in hand with 3 other Org's. It makes me sick. Nobody wants 4 belts in each division. We've got Silver champs, Super champs and interim champs etc and again it's sickening. I want to see the return of 2 main Org's, 15 round fights, less divisions and same day weigh-ins. So if GG does match Bernard's record it won't mean a damn thing to me. Again, I won't be celebrating it. But again, I have to respect his wishes to dominate his division. I can't heavily criticise him when again, he's not a huge MW, SMW isn't really that strong, and his goals are no different to any other fighters. Criticising GG for staying at MW, would be like jumping on DeGale and demanding that he moves up to LHW. That's just one example of many I could give.

Basically, you're just looking for an argument. I've told you that I'd like to see GG eventually move to SMW, and I honestly think that he will at some point.


Now this is the last time I'm going to tell you this:

If you want a proper debate, then stop acting childish and I'll gladly debate with you for as long as you want.

But if you're going to reply back with the typical "fanboy dribble" etc, then don't bother.

I come on here in my spare time to enjoy myself, not to have playground arguments.

Don't waste my time.

I couldn't give a stuff if he stays at 160, never even mentioned it..... you have completely missed the point, AGAIN.

And I don't believe you have much respect/understanding for the sport.

And honestly, you continually mentioning "he small doe"..... you don't even seem to realize how ridiculous that sounds.

That post was basically a long-winded way to express your love for GGG.

We will agree to disagree, let's leave it there.