Comments Thread For: Golovkin vs. Eubank Deal Hangs in The Balance Over Sky Money

[_Maxi]

No. Maxi, you missed the rest of the conversation. I didn't say Canelo should move down. Bando said Canelo's team never offered, which everyone knows they did, which is why team ggg responded with "No catch weight". I'm not saying he should take a catch weight, you misunderstood.

Ok my bad, sorry.

[boxingitis]

Ward moved up cause he's a man, Golovkin refused cause he's a girl.

So Canelo refuse to Move up because he's Girl.

[boxingitis]

HBO was not going to offer him a deal if he fought at 168....KILL TWO BIRDS WITH ONE STONE....kills possibility of GGG getting beat by Ward and possibly a chance for ward to lose to Kov, who imo is better than GGG.

Also, what does the super middleweight champion look like fighting at 164 when GGG is not some big star?

GGG was willing to fight others at 168 so they put their foot in their mouth

I understand Hopkins moving down for DLH.....GGG is no DLH

Yes Andre Ward is not a star either that is why GGG went for Chavez Jr and Froch.

[Redd Foxx]

Found a link to this offer yet? What were the financial details?

You're not fooling anyone and no one is going to research articles for you (which is your whole, sad attempt). I've done it before and your stock reply is "Well I don't believe what that article says". Sorry troll, no more troll food.

[boxingitis]

Doesn't bring any reward? I think that beating a top 3 P4P guy would give him instantly #1P4P



So you supporting by your own statement, that fighters should change their stance based on their popularity aka "Canelo Style"


You know that now that Floyd and Manny are gone, Canelo brings the most lucrative paydays for fighters.



I sadly agree with this.

Andre Ward wad pound for pound and never got large amounts of money. If Canelo brought enough reward for GGG to go 155 he would have agreed to those terms.

[HeroBando]

You're not fooling anyone and no one is going to research articles for you (which is your whole, sad attempt). I've done it before and your stock reply is "Well I don't believe what that article says". Sorry troll, you lose.

I accept your surrender.

Why would you even pick this losing battle? Everybody knows team Canelo didn't make any offers. You just love looking like a fool?

[Scipio2009]

Why the fk would he move up or down to fight someone less popular than him for one title, Ex Lara or Zurdo Ramirez. The only one more popular here in the US is Canelo and he doesnt hold any titles. He has four titles, so the only ones that made sense money wise was Chavez Jr and Carl Froch, he only had 2 at the time. Andrew Ward is great and would probably beat GGG at 168, but doesnt bring any reward for a big risk. When GGG said he would fight 154 to 168 he was not know that much and only had the WBA and IBO titles, he was more willing to take risk. Now he is the WBC WBA IBF IBO Champion he doesnt have to do **** for others. Canelo doesnt bring enough money for him to take a risk for 155, plus is 4 fking Middleweight titles on the line, it should be at 160, otherwise just get rid of them. GGG and Canelo both lost a great opportunity to make good money because they dont want to loose or are just copying May/ Pac . I dont know the real story behind Ward and GGG, and I believe none of us does.

For all of Golovkin's popularity, he did 100k PPV buys in his PPV debut, K2 has no plans of taking Golovkin back to PPV on his own name, and they went with sucker ****, like refusing to stage the Forum for it's full capacity after his debut at the building apparently did massive business (lol).

Golovkin is so popular that he's thirsting badly to head to anyone else's market to actually make a payday.

Andre Ward brings Golovkin the opportunity to actually prove his worth in the sport, rather than continue with the perception of simply being some monster happy to keep on crushing cans for the rest of his career (note that Andre Ward being America's last male Olympic gold medalist in boxing, Ward's ability to get out there and market the fight to the US audience, ESPN picking up on Ward-Golovkin being a true 50/50 fight that they can push on their air, and Ward coming to the table with some money supporting him as well makes the distinct case that Ward isn't coming into such fight hat in hand).

'Canelo' Alvarez "doesn't bring enough money" yet Amir Khan, even if he only ended up making the rumored guaranteed, walked away with a payday that is at least 3 times the money than Golovkin's ever made on a fight in his life. Cotto-Alvarez, once all of the revenues from the event are added up, likely did near $100m in total business (likely with the fighters/promoters splitting up $40m-$45m).

If the rumors are true, Gennady Golovkin is on his way to fighting a bout in the UK where he's literally bringing very little money to the table (Sky Sports is going to push the heck out of the fight to drive up their PPV business, Eddie Hearn will promote the fight hard, and Golovkin and his camp are responsible for bringing Golovkin over, hoping that HBO lays out some serious money to air the fight in the US, and hope that K2 can interest some German broadcaster to throw in a good amount of money as well).

[Scipio2009]

Is everybody just dumb if Eubanks wants £6 millon how much would triple GGG get ?

Is the question

I said this before Amir Khan got £12 Millon for fighting Canelo

Kelly Brook they cannot pay him more than 1.5 Millon whilst jesser vargas pockets 1 millon dollars

Eubanks is right to ask for £6 millon think about this PPV in england, Russia, usa

work it out guys plenty of money to go around

The fight is not PPV in the US (with HBO also having to consider shelling out to carry Brook-Vargas, I have doubts that HBO commits to airing to matinee shows so close together either).

Also, Amir Khan got nowhere near 12 million British pounds (as of the rate at the time, that'd be nearly $17m!!!); why you keep pushing that bull**** is beyond me. If Khan even got the rumored $6m (just over 4.25m British pounds) on the fight, he made out like a bandit.

Brook-Khan is a fight that is destined for Wembley, and is arguably one of the most anticipated fights in the UK (from an outsider looking in); if you earnestly believe that the number that Matchroom Sport is willing to guarantee Amir Khan tops out at 1.5m British pounds, you played yourself.

[Scipio2009]

Let's not twist things. Golovkin tried to fight Quillin, just made an offer to fight Jacobs, signed to fight Lee, tried to fight Cotto, and offered to fight Martinez in Argentina in place of Murray. Those guys all turned him down, you need to criticize those guys (well not Lee, but really you'd be criticizing Golovkin for having fought Lee if he did).

And how was Lemieux a weak boxer? He came off dominating N'Dam when most critics didn't even think he'd take that fight.

As inferior as Wade, Monroe, and Adamu were, they'd be top-level opponents for Chris in relation to O'Sullivan, Jeter, and Blackwell.

Where is this phantom offer to Jacobs? Jacobs is Golovkin's mandatory challenger for the WBA, Golovkin already has his eyes elsewhere for this Fall (Jacobs wanting to take a fight to get active again makes that okay), but you've never heard Golovkin, Tom Loeffler, or even motormouth Abel Sanchez say "We want to fight Daniel Jacobs" (the closest that Tom Loeffler has ever come to having those words leave his mouth is stating that Golovkin vs Jacobs would be a massive fight in New York).

K2 is in a position now with HBO where they've got a pretty decent budget to work with when finding guys to fight yet no mention of Erislandy Lara, Demetrius Andrade, or a host of other fighters who are ready to step in.

David Lemieux was coming off of a fight where, with both fight promoters working to give him every single advantage possible (fight in Montreal, Montreal judges, the ring going from a 18x18 to barely a 15x15 on the day of the fight, etc), yet still lost 6 rounds to Hassan N'Dam on the night; revisionist history doesn't work when folks have the source materials.

Lastly, Chris Eubank Jr only even started throwing hands, as an amateur, in 2007; he's not even a 5-year pro at this point.

To sit and try to compare his competition to a fighter who's a 10-year pro, was at the top amateur level for his last 5 years as an amateur, and was likely boxing well before then, and to have their competition levels be basically on par, is laughable.

[Eastcoast]

Where is this phantom offer to Jacobs? Jacobs is Golovkin's mandatory challenger for the WBA, Golovkin already has his eyes elsewhere for this Fall (Jacobs wanting to take a fight to get active again makes that okay), but you've never heard Golovkin, Tom Loeffler, or even motormouth Abel Sanchez say "We want to fight Daniel Jacobs" (the closest that Tom Loeffler has ever come to having those words leave his mouth is stating that Golovkin vs Jacobs would be a massive fight in New York).

K2 is in a position now with HBO where they've got a pretty decent budget to work with when finding guys to fight yet no mention of Erislandy Lara, Demetrius Andrade, or a host of other fighters who are ready to step in.

David Lemieux was coming off of a fight where, with both fight promoters working to give him every single advantage possible (fight in Montreal, Montreal judges, the ring going from a 18x18 to barely a 15x15 on the day of the fight, etc), yet still lost 6 rounds to Hassan N'Dam on the night; revisionist history doesn't work when folks have the source materials.

Lastly, Chris Eubank Jr only even started throwing hands, as an amateur, in 2007; he's not even a 5-year pro at this point.

To sit and try to compare his competition to a fighter who's a 10-year pro, was at the top amateur level for his last 5 years as an amateur, and was likely boxing well before then, and to have their competition levels be basically on par, is laughable.

Keep up with the sport. Jacobs said so himself in a interview he did Saturday.