Comments Thread For: Early Ratings: Thurman-Porter Most Watched Bout of 2016 To Date

[bigdunny1]

Final numbers are out, the entire show averaged 2.415M. #4 PBC show ever after Thurman-Guerrero, Garcia-Peterson, and Garcia-Guerrero.

Final number bumps up from 6th best show to 4th best show out of the 10 PBC sat night shows they have aired to date. Still not that good. This was hands down the biggest and best fight PBC has ever aired. Promoted more then any card to date. So shouldn't it of easily pulled the best PBC TV ratings ever instead of just basically middle of the back against lesser cards? Also it was lower then NBC and FOX debuts. It's only a good rating if you only compare it to PBC's worst ratings. This fight should of done 4-5m viewers and blown all past PBC ratings away.

[bigdunny1]

Benny my bad you right about the link. You and Pigeons posted back to back thought your grid/link was the same as his which has been updated with the final rating. Still don't know what you point is tho I was talking about the overnight ratings which was 2.12m and what Showtime released in their press statement. They said the Thurman vs Porter fight did 2.4m which is what this article from boxingscene quoted. So if you have a problem with fans throwing around that number then take it up with Showtime they released it.

[BennyBlanco]

Not they WERE NOT and no need to lie. Showbuzz updates the original overnight link for Sat night ratings on tuesday when the final numbers come in dumb azzz. The numbers quoted in this article and provided by Showtime were were the overnight ratings and were the same on this grind on Sunday morning. They literally updated it this morning like they do EVERY tuesday when the final numbers and cable ratings come in. The entire show did an over night 2.12m

You're even less intelligent than I thought.

Here are the original overnight numbers, posted Sunday, June 26: .

Here are the updated numbers, posted Tuesday, June 28:.

As you can see, I posted the overnights, not the finals.

[bigdunny1]

Benny see my last post lol. You and pigeons posting back to back with grids that from far away looked the same. I was speaking on his grid.

[BennyBlanco]

Final number bumps up from 6th best show to 4th best show out of the 10 PBC sat night shows they have aired to date. Still not that good. This was hands down the biggest and best fight PBC has ever aired. Promoted more then any card to date. So shouldn't it of easily pulled the best PBC TV ratings ever instead of just basically middle of the back against lesser cards? Also it was lower then NBC and FOX debuts. It's only a good rating if you only compare it to PBC's worst ratings. This fight should of done 4-5m viewers and blown all past PBC ratings away.

Not an accurate analysis.

You can't really compare the late off-TV substitute opening fight of Jarrett Hurd vs Oscar Molina to the opening fight of Adrien Broner vs. John Molina, so a comparison of the viewership of the whole cards isn't an apples to apples comparison.

Comparing the main event viewership is the better analysis. We know everyone was tuning in for Thurman-Porter, and no one was tuning in for Hurd-Molina. The Thurman vs. Porter main event averaged 3.2 million viewers, which is more than Garcia vs. Guerrero and Garcia vs. Peterson, and second only to Thurman vs. Guerrero.

So Thurman-Porter is at the #2 most-watched main event since 1998. When the peak comes in early tomorrow, then we'll know if the peak viewership ranks Thurman-Porter as the most-watched main event.

[bigdunny1]

Not an accurate analysis.

You can't really compare the late off-TV substitute opening fight of Jarrett Hurd vs Oscar Molina to the opening fight of Adrien Broner vs. John Molina, so a comparison of the viewership of the whole cards isn't an apples to apples comparison.

Comparing the main event viewership is the better analysis. We know everyone was tuning in for Thurman-Porter, and no one was tuning in for Hurd-Molina. The Thurman vs. Porter main event averaged 3.2 million viewers, which is more than Garcia vs. Guerrero and Garcia vs. Peterson, and second only to Thurman vs. Guerrero.

So Thurman-Porter is at the #2 most-watched main event since 1998. When the peak comes in early tomorrow, then we'll know if the peak viewership ranks Thurman-Porter as the most-watched main event.

Where are you getting the main even avg 3.2m? And there hasn't been any cards on network prime time since 1998 so that number means literally nothing. You have to compare to what is acceptable for network prime time standards which this is low. And even if you just compare to PBC's history this card should of blown away all other PBC cards and even if you just take JUST main event it should of blown away all other main events. I thought the argument was PBC has been growing? So a year and half of PBC building it's brand and the biggest fight bar none can't do better then 4th best? If Haymon wanted a better overall card TV rating then he should of put a better undercard fight. As for the main event I've seen nothing stating this did 3.2m please show where you got that. But even if that is true this fight really should of did 4-5m.

[killakali]

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/5/12...ht-2006-boxing

For a basically 10-minute fight to average 2.1m viewers, yet only peak at just UNDER 2.3m viewers, simple logic will tell you that the fight began with a ton of folks having already tuned in.

With the Mayweather-Pacquiao replay averaging about 1.2m viewers for the basically full hour, what would you figure was the peak viewership for Mayweather-Pacquiao; you can't honestly think that Alvarez pushed the viewership from 1.2m to the 2.4m peak in 10 minutes!

i just watched fs1 toes to toes tuesdays and i saw the same corona commercials everytime with like 2 att commercials. these are the same sponsors they always had which were with golden boys before haymon pilfered his stable. i cant believe after a year theres no new sponsors its a crying shame.

peoples like to hate on roc nations sports but they got the sponsors watch their cards and they pull a gang of sponsors thanks their other sports representation like Kevin Durant Robinson Cano CC etc. They do it right. PBCs don't gots new sponsorships that is what the sport needs

[Scipio2009]

i just watched fs1 toes to toes tuesdays and i saw the same corona commercials everytime with like 2 att commercials. these are the same sponsors they always had which were with golden boys before haymon pilfered his stable. i cant believe after a year theres no new sponsors its a crying shame.

peoples like to hate on roc nations sports but they got the sponsors watch their cards and they pull a gang of sponsors thanks their other sports representation like Kevin Durant Robinson Cano CC etc. They do it right. PBCs don't gots new sponsorships that is what the sport needs

Corona is a presenting sponsor for PBC; all the excessive Corona commercials mean, as they did with the start of the PBC effort, is that PBC wasn't able to sell the FS1 ad spots to advertisers (Corona spots filling in the time as whatever Corona paid to be the presenting sponsor for PBC is aggregated over all of the shows).

Not every show is going to sell through; for PBC's sake, it's refreshing to see that the primetime terrestrial shows, regardless of channel, are selling very well.

And, in case you missed it, PBC has more sponsors than just Corona.

[killakali]

Corona is a presenting sponsor for PBC; all the excessive Corona commercials mean, as they did with the start of the PBC effort, is that PBC wasn't able to sell the FS1 ad spots to advertisers (Corona spots filling in the time as whatever Corona paid to be the presenting sponsor for PBC is aggregated over all of the shows).

Not every show is going to sell through; for PBC's sake, it's refreshing to see that the primetime terrestrial shows, regardless of channel, are selling very well.

And, in case you missed it, PBC has more sponsors than just Corona.

they have some at&t and an occasional one off. that is it. RNS has way more

[Boxing Logic]

If Showtime/CBS can lock in 10 fight cards on primetime terrestrial TV that'll draw 2m-3m viewers over 2.5 hours (live sports content always draws a premium from advertisers), build in the content on CBS Sports Network (with smaller NBCSN/FS1 type fights and the support programming, CBSSportsNetwork becomes a viable cable channel), and still kick HBO's teeth in on Showtime (with CBS being dominated by football, NFL/NCAAF, from September through January, most of the matchups for that time stretch are going to be on Showtime, with the few PPV fights, the international broadcasts that'll get picked up by Showtime Interational, and the spillover from February through August all ending up on Showtime), the fact that you seem to honestly believe that Showtime/CBS isn't going to be a player for the deal, you played yourself.

2-3 mil viewers sucks though for CBS. You are used to premium cable numbers, where 1 mil is a good night. On CBS 2-3 mil still sucks. Those are awful ratings. If PBC survives it will be by using free TV as its commercials, showing only bad fights like it mostly has so far, as a way to advertise starts on free TV to sucker in PBC fan boys to buy PPVs for all the good fights, which is where they will make the money back.

But if you're talking PBC itself on free TV, and 2-3 mil ratings, that's nowhere near good enough by itself, or have you not seen the reports that they've lost hundreds of millions already putting up those type of ratings?