Comments Thread For: Early Ratings: Thurman-Porter Most Watched Bout of 2016 To Date

[Jsmooth9876]

No, the 2.117 million average is from Nielsen, and they calculate the average only in the scheduled time slot - i.e., the average is for the 9-11 time slot. See here: http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/article...6-25-2016.html

The highest viewership was between 11 pm and 11:27 pm, so the 2.117m average does not take into account the period of highest viewership.

Gotcha but I don't think it's gonna spike close to 4m like you said earlier, that's a little crazy to think....I thought it would do 4 myself based on the matchup but boxing is just not a mainstream sport anymore...these numbers are good for what PBC has been doing recently at least..good match ups equal better ratings...you'd think they'd figure that one out a long time ago...

[killakali]

You clearly don't understand how averages are calculated. Forget I mentioned it.

I think you fail to realize you don't know how it works. Look at minute by minute spikes of live sports.

[Scipio2009]

exactly you are making my point. As fights go on ratings tend to go just like what happened to Thurman-Porter. Imagine if that KO of the year slugfest lasted even longer? Would have peaked at several hundred thousand more views.

Alvarez-Kirkland had the replay of Mayweather-Pacquiao as it's lead in (it'll be beating a dead horse to continue to point out how big that fight was, but you won' acknowledge that so whatever.

What was the rating for the full broadcast though? (With the Mayweather-Pacquiao fight, including the ringwalks and the post-fight content, and the full Alvarez-Kirkland fight, with ringwalks and post-fight, you're looking at nearly two hour of TV).

HBO hasn't shown that consistency of having the audience continually grow over their broadcasts, so to simply assume that'll be the case is a bit forward. Alvarez-Kirkland was decidedly one-way action and I think that you've drastically overestimated the size of the tune-in audience for a one-sided beating.

The fight night was sold on fans getting to see the Mayweather-Pacquiao replay (again, if you'd already bought the PPV), not the Alvarez fight.

[Scipio2009]

just curious but did you plan on mentioning that Canelo-Kirland did over double the viewers than that replay.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/5/12...ht-2006-boxing

For a basically 10-minute fight to average 2.1m viewers, yet only peak at just UNDER 2.3m viewers, simple logic will tell you that the fight began with a ton of folks having already tuned in.

With the Mayweather-Pacquiao replay averaging about 1.2m viewers for the basically full hour, what would you figure was the peak viewership for Mayweather-Pacquiao; you can't honestly think that Alvarez pushed the viewership from 1.2m to the 2.4m peak in 10 minutes!

[Kigali]

Alvarez-Kirkland had the replay of Mayweather-Pacquiao as it's lead in (it'll be beating a dead horse to continue to point out how big that fight was, but you won' acknowledge that so whatever.

What was the rating for the full broadcast though? (With the Mayweather-Pacquiao fight, including the ringwalks and the post-fight content, and the full Alvarez-Kirkland fight, with ringwalks and post-fight, you're looking at nearly two hour of TV).

HBO hasn't shown that consistency of having the audience continually grow over their broadcasts, so to simply assume that'll be the case is a bit forward. Alvarez-Kirkland was decidedly one-way action and I think that you've drastically overestimated the size of the tune-in audience for a one-sided beating.

The fight night was sold on fans getting to see the Mayweather-Pacquiao replay (again, if you'd already bought the PPV), not the Alvarez fight.

You kill them with cold hard facts.

Keep up the good work...I enjoy reading your posts.

[Scipio2009]

These ratings are not even good by PBC standards (which is lowering the bar for Network TV ratings in the first place). This was the biggest and best fight PBC has made to date by a long shot. A fight that they literally have been promoting for OVER a year. A fight that Showtime helped promote with a All Access 4 part series with cameras following around Thurman and Porter. A fight that is essentially the Super Bowl for PBC thus far. It should of did 4-5m viewers and without a doubt broke the ceiling for PBC ratings. Instead let's see how the ratings stack up to PBC's own Sat Prime time ratings. They have released 10 Sat Prime Time cards to date listed in order by date they aired on EACH network.

NBC
3.37m Thurman/Guerrero
2.88m Garica/Peterson
2.33m Porter/Broner
2.2m Wilder/Duhaupas
1.8m Figueroa/Demarco
1.24m Spence/Algieri
1.2m Fonfara/Smith


FOX
2.24m Garcia/Guerrero
1.51m Berto/Ortiz

CBS
2.12m Thurman/Porter

Worse then NBC's first 4 PBC's shows, WORSE then FOX's debut show earlier this year. Worse then less important mismatches. Sure this is a increase on the LAST few NBC cards which featured prospects and B and C class fighters. But it's actually disturbing that a year and half later this big so called "PBC Mega fight" is only the 6th highest TV ratings out of the total 10 Prime Time cards that PBC has aired to date. And the trend of NBC, FOX and CBS have of each debuting PBC Prime time cards worse the longer PBC has gone on. 3.37 for NBC, 2.24 for FOX and now 2.12 for CBS.

lol. Console yourself however you want; the doom and gloom that you've kept trying to push has failed to materialize, the commercials (for primetime live sports content on terrestrial TV) have been consistently selling through for the broadcasts, and PBC has already been able to establish sponsors wanting to be tied with the product (beyond just Corona).

The audience isn't starting off with a 4m average for PBC, but the audience for boxing seems to have settled in (for fights with promotional push behind them) at averaging over 2m viewers (with more viewers tuning in over the course of the broadcast), with audiences peaking near 3m for the show, or beyond.

The CBS number will end up being significantly beyond your low-ball estimate, but boxing is seemingly being proven to be viable on terrestrial TV, so get use to it (the cost of paying the fighters for this marquee show wasn't even excessive, and the revenues brought in on the fight card was likely able to sustain the bill).

lol

[Scipio2009]

1 fight did 2.4m you idiot. The entire show did 2.12m. CBS sells commercial time for the entire time slot so that's the numbers they care about. Not the just a 30m block. And even the main event is lower then all the PBC fights minus Danny vs Guerrero. So even by main event it's only the 5th highest PBC main event out of the 10 prime time cards. Whether you want to use main event or entire card its still not good enough even by PBC standards especially for the biggest and most promoted fight to date in PBC history.

CBS, in your opinion, sells commercial time in 2.5 hour blocks? gtfoh

half-hour and quarter-hour numbers and the breakdown of the actual viewers tuning in has far more to do with ad rates than simply the composite number for a 2 and a half hour broadcast.

give it up already

[Scipio2009]

lol not everyone who has showtime has hbo or vice versa smh. Let's just not give Canelo any credit even though his ratings in Mexico for years have been off the charts and better even than the national soccer team. The hate is real!

Not everyone has both HBO and Showtime, but a lot of people do (Showtime is available in nearly 29m homes, while HBO is available in 36m; would not shock me in the least if 27m homes have both channels).

Canelo definitely deserves credit, just don't get ridiculous with it; Mayweather-Pacquiao as the lead in and boxing coverage on both premium channels leaving boxing fans to rally behind all the fights on that night is being greatly discounted here.

Cotto-Alvarez and Alvarez-Khan, after the PPV, have both been replayed on HBO, yet have drawn nowhere near the number that he was able to get with Mayweather-Pacquiao and HBO/Showtime both carrying fight lead-ins for him.

http://mmapayout.com/2015/12/klitsch...day-afternoon/

http://mmapayout.com/2016/05/alavare...-draws-767000/

If Saul Alvarez was truly the driving force behind the 2.1m viewer figure, how do you explain his viewership collapsing by half to nearly two thirds? A live fight versus a replay has an effect but giving up that much of the audience is ridiculous.

[Scipio2009]

So all the extra people just decided to watch only the 6th round on? How's that make sense? I'm sure extra people tuned in but another 1 million? Doubtful....

2.4m was the average for the 9pm-11pm timeslot; that makes no mention of what the peak number was at 11pm.

With the audience growing for every half hour of the broadcast, that final half hour would've also seen audience growth. From the peak at 11pm, through the end of a hotly contested fight, that peak question is key.

[killakali]

Alvarez-Kirkland had the replay of Mayweather-Pacquiao as it's lead in (it'll be beating a dead horse to continue to point out how big that fight was, but you won' acknowledge that so whatever.

What was the rating for the full broadcast though? (With the Mayweather-Pacquiao fight, including the ringwalks and the post-fight content, and the full Alvarez-Kirkland fight, with ringwalks and post-fight, you're looking at nearly two hour of TV).

HBO hasn't shown that consistency of having the audience continually grow over their broadcasts, so to simply assume that'll be the case is a bit forward. Alvarez-Kirkland was decidedly one-way action and I think that you've drastically overestimated the size of the tune-in audience for a one-sided beating.

The fight night was sold on fans getting to see the Mayweather-Pacquiao replay (again, if you'd already bought the PPV), not the Alvarez fight.

wrong on all points. For one Canelo-Kirkland had over double the audience that the replay had and some folk watched the replay on SHowime and don't even have HBO or didn't see all the lead in commercials like HBO was showing. #2 HBO fights audiences grow over the course of the fight (for good fights). We understand your hating on Canelo but keep in mind that Kirland landed some big shots as well.