It's a disgrace...

[sicko]

How can you have zero problem with it when Breazeale is barely even a prospect?

Because it is his first Title Defense, not only that but Joshua stays very active so I'm sure his next fight will be a bigger name. It is 1 Damn fight while you have guys who been Pro much longer than Joshua who still haven't stepped and and is off some where in Germany or Ukraine or what ever still haven't stepped up and still haven't fought anybody but people are making a big deal about 1 fight from a guy who was just in the 2012 Olympics, only been pro for 4 years now and only has 17 Pro Fights

That makes NO SENSE! The never mind the fact that it was a quick turn around for him, he just fought Martin and just won the title 2 Months ago. You stay active until something BIGGER comes along who the *** told fight fans that guys are suppose to sit around and wait for a big fight to become available. You can go to Boxrec, NO FIGHTER not even Legends has all just "BIG NAME FIGHTS" in between they all had some mismatches/stay active fights to keep the fans watching but also to make money back then. Another reason why making new boxing Superstars is difficult because they guys layoffs are extremely LONG Joshua at least stays active

[soul_survivor]

He was out of shape yet he lasted 7 rounds and never showed signs of fatigue? His fatigue was never an issue. Those punches to the face was the problem. You complain he should be fighting better competition because he's a champ. But you don't realize he has better competition because he's a champ. If he didn't have the belt the Parker fight may not have taken place until 2-3 years down the road. He took a voluntary, boo hoo. His record after 18 fights looks better than any other fighter out there after the same number of fights. It's not AJ's fault that the other Heavies, beside Wilder and Parker, can't get their **** together. AJ is handling his business and doing things the correct way. You gotta have a special type of hate in your heart not to like this guy.



Joe Louis had a Bum of the Month club. These guys are wishing for days gone by that never were.

“Remembrance of things past is not necessarily the remembrance of things as they were.”
― Marcel Proust

That's just not true.

And you're overly defensive. If you stop and thought about it for a second, you'd realise Breazeale was a horrible fighter who threw 2 punches a round and almost got beaten up by a middle aged man in a previous fight. Let's not turn this into anything it isn't. AJ fought and beat a bum, as is the rest of his career barring possibly Whyte but we'll see how he progresses. It's why AJ himself is frustrated.

Now, as for the past, I agree, Louis fought a bunch of bums and it's why I'd never rate him as the best heavy ever but why do you bring up the past? It isn't pertinent to the discussion which is this: guys like breazeale and Martin are a disgrace to the division when they get paid to have a full training camp and still can't come in better shape than the average gym goer.

If you're happy with that type of "athlete" representing boxing's blue ribbon division then that's fine but don't bring true boxing fans down to that level.

[soul_survivor]

Because it is his first Title Defense, not only that but Joshua stays very active so I'm sure his next fight will be a bigger name. It is 1 Damn fight while you have guys who been Pro much longer than Joshua who still haven't stepped and and is off some where in Germany or Ukraine or what ever still haven't stepped up and still haven't fought anybody but people are making a big deal about 1 fight from a guy who was just in the 2012 Olympics, only been pro for 4 years now and only has 17 Pro Fights

That makes NO SENSE! The never mind the fact that it was a quick turn around for him, he just fought Martin and just won the title 2 Months ago. You stay active until something BIGGER comes along who the *** told fight fans that guys are suppose to sit around and wait for a big fight to become available. You can go to Boxrec, NO FIGHTER not even Legends has all just "BIG NAME FIGHTS" in between they all had some mismatches/stay active fights to keep the fans watching but also to make money back then. Another reason why making new boxing Superstars is difficult because they guys layoffs are extremely LONG Joshua at least stays active

It's not just one fight, it's the Martin fight and the bum he fought before Whyte and the fact that these fights are sold as PPV.

Anyway, as I said before, this isn't so much me having a go at AJ, which you would know if you bothered reading my original post rather than getting overly defensive about your boyfriend. My original post is more me having a go at these bums disgracing the division by not being in shape, not throwing punches and coming over to get KOd. That's the problem.

Most of my original post was this:

that a fat, slovenly, misshapen, sorry excuse for a man known as Dominic Breazeale should challenge for a WORLD heavyweight title, a title which once meant something. A title once held by the great Larry Holmes.

It was an even bigger disgrace and an abomination for sport, when a man with bigger breasts than Pamela Anderson actually won the title on a technicality and was paraded on SkySports as a heavyweight champion.

The problem are these so called heavyweight boxers. You would understand that if so many modern "fans" didn't spend so long defensing their favourite fighters like they owe them money and actually seeing the whole picture.

[Motorcity Cobra]

That's just not true.

And you're overly defensive. If you stop and thought about it for a second, you'd realise Breazeale was a horrible fighter who threw 2 punches a round and almost got beaten up by a middle aged man in a previous fight. Let's not turn this into anything it isn't. AJ fought and beat a bum, as is the rest of his career barring possibly Whyte but we'll see how he progresses. It's why AJ himself is frustrated.

Now, as for the past, I agree, Louis fought a bunch of bums and it's why I'd never rate him as the best heavy ever but why do you bring up the past? It isn't pertinent to the discussion which is this: guys like breazeale and Martin are a disgrace to the division when they get paid to have a full training camp and still can't come in better shape than the average gym goer.

If you're happy with that type of "athlete" representing boxing's blue ribbon division then that's fine but don't bring true boxing fans down to that level.

I never said Breazele was a great fighter. I'm saying the drop off between #8 and #50 is not that great. Eric Molina and Johann Duhaupas were called bums last year when Wilder fought them an are now ranked 16 & 15 respectively. Once you get past AJ, Wilder, Wlad, Parker, and Fury the field isn't that great. You think there's a great difference in skill between a #9 ranked Malik Scott and #24 ranked Breazeale?

Breazeale was in the same shape for the Mansour fight as he was for this fight. Probably better shape for this fight. Yea Mansour was beating Breazeale but you know what Breazeale did? He got up off the canvas and hit Mansour so hard he bit his tongue in half. He didn't lay down against Mansour and he didn't lay down against AJ. In Heavyweight one punch can end the night like it did against Mansour.

Breazeal's conditioning and stamina didn't play a factor in this fight. AJ''s superior skill set was the factor. And that will be the same case for anyone he fights until he fight Wilder, Fury, Wlad, or Parker. Don't blame AJ because the rest of the heavyweight division sucks. It ****** for years while Wlad was the champ and nobody complained. They just tuned out. But I will say this. The top of the division is a lot better than when Wlad reigned the past 11 years

[sicko]

It's not just one fight, it's the Martin fight and the bum he fought before Whyte and the fact that these fights are sold as PPV.

Anyway, as I said before, this isn't so much me having a go at AJ, which you would know if you bothered reading my original post rather than getting overly defensive about your boyfriend. My original post is more me having a go at these bums disgracing the division by not being in shape, not throwing punches and coming over to get KOd. That's the problem.

Most of my original post was this:

that a fat, slovenly, misshapen, sorry excuse for a man known as Dominic Breazeale should challenge for a WORLD heavyweight title, a title which once meant something. A title once held by the great Larry Holmes.

It was an even bigger disgrace and an abomination for sport, when a man with bigger breasts than Pamela Anderson actually won the title on a technicality and was paraded on SkySports as a heavyweight champion.

The problem are these so called heavyweight boxers. You would understand that if so many modern "fans" didn't spend so long defensing their favourite fighters like they owe them money and actually seeing the whole picture.

Nobody is offended only person getting sensitive about it is YOU crying about his level of competition as if that was Joshua's last fight and like he will never fight again or something. I'm just saying fans need to calm down and big patient, they're clearly working towards Wilder, Parker and other big names but at the same time the man is still YOUNG, only be pro for 4 years now and only have 17 Pro Fights. Nothing wrong with fighting young hungry fighters like himself, in fact I would prefer that instead of beating on washed up fighters just for Name Sake. They can work on big fights while he stays active.

[IMDAZED]

You probably have manboobs and cant be bothered to get into shape.

GTFO micro****.

I don't but why interject with this silliness? You have a real counter, go for it. Or continue with your little schoolyard antics.

[1g5a22]

...that a fat, slovenly, misshapen, sorry excuse for a man known as Dominic Breazeale should challenge for a WORLD heavyweight title, a title which once meant something. A title once held by the great Larry Holmes.

It was an even bigger disgrace and an abomination for sport, when a man with bigger breasts than Pamela Anderson actually won the title on a technicality and was paraded on SkySports as a heavyweight champion.

Hearn and his goons are turning the AJ title run/win into a joke.

Breazeale is a joke. He was losing to 43 yr old Mansour.. Mansour was ahead on all three judges scorecards (50-44, 50-44, 50-44), and the featherfist also knocked down Breazeale in the third round for a 10-8 round LOL

[RSBonos]

oh to go back to the glory days when John Ruiz and Chris Byrd split the title.

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The funniest part of the night was Johnny Nelson confronting Haye about the bums he's fighting.

Then the IBF rankings flashed up on screen, and Haye without a shred of shame said "yeah I've worked my way up the rankings, i deserve a Joshua fight"

Breazeale is ****, but it is what it is. At least he had a bit of heart and tried to last a few rounds. He has my respect.

*edit*

Who actually regards Joshua as a real champion anyway?

[therealpugilist]

...that a fat, slovenly, misshapen, sorry excuse for a man known as Dominic Breazeale should challenge for a WORLD heavyweight title, a title which once meant something. A title once held by the great Larry Holmes.

It was an even bigger disgrace and an abomination for sport, when a man with bigger breasts than Pamela Anderson actually won the title on a technicality and was paraded on SkySports as a heavyweight champion.

Hearn and his goons are turning the AJ title run/win into a joke.

Yea he was pretty pathetic...I just look at it as a fight between two prospects, one just happened to hold and alphabet title...nothing more or less.

Joshua has the most upside of all the heavies but I dont think he is ready for Wilder or Ortiz at the moment. He could ice Fury IMO