PBC/NBC done at the end of this year?

[Sportsguy]

Another thing is that the fighters don't fight that often. The Porter-Thurman winner won't fight for a while, and unlikely to fight Garcia or winner of Vargas-Brook in the short term since Garcia or Vargas-Brook will take a rest period too after they fight.

[RSBonos]

Go look around at some of the ratings for these other live sports that have commanded huge money and I think you'll feel differently. Live sports is huge for networks and it's only getting huger. The UFC's Fox deal is for ~$90M/yr and there is talk of them getting ~$200M+/yr when the next deal comes up in another 2yrs or so.

So basically there is for sure still an opportunity for PBC to get a big money TV deal. And I suspect worse case they could get a $50M+ deal where they could still show there biggest fights on Showtime to keep things moving til they can grow into a big money deal.

So many people are too consumed with how PBC can lose that they are ignoring all the ways they can win, even if that win takes a little longer to secure, as winning can often do.

I don't completely disagree, but why blow 500 million to only get 50 in return if they're lucky. The ratings are lower than the UFC, especially with the key demo's.

They had this huge war chest that is not going to be replicated any time soon and did nothing with it.

[Kigali]

hbo is just banking their budget waiting for haymon to fold so they can get all their fighters back.

Look at this glass jawed hater.

Go pluck your eyebrows puta.

[bigdunny1]

This might explain better why Fonfora vs who dat headlined the last NBC card. Surely Haymon say/knew the writing was on the wall if Fat Dan did. Look for NBC to get more fights like that one than their early bigger fights til there out.

And this isn't that surprising, we all knew all 8 or whatever of these deals wouldn't work out. And most who are nerding out on TV **** have been saying NBC was the least likely option for this big $100M deal that most seem to believe is the goal of Haymon.

A little over a year ago when PBC announced they did so with NBC trumpeting the deal. All the money and marketing told us NBC was the flag ship station for PBC. They pulled out all the stops with big name announcers and their biggest fights were on NBC last year. Now with NBC looks to be pulling the plug the the narrative is who cares it's just NBC? No one expected NBC to give them a TV deal anyway? That's horse crap and revision history. And if NBC is not happy with the ratings why would FOX be when the ratings are worse after 2 shows and 4 months then they were after 4 shows and 8 months on NBC? And if CBS was happy with their ratings why did they cancel the PBC afternoon series from last year and why have they gone almost a full year without airing a single PBC card? They only airing thurman fight because showtime their sister station paid for and showtime will produce it instead of PBC.

PBC dumped more money to date on fights on NBC then any other network so clearly they thought they were the prime candidate to get a big TV deal or drive up the price for other networks to pay. Clearly that didn't happen with the NBC exec who brought PBC to NBC being fired and NBC cutting bait with PBC at the end of the year. With crap like that going on the flag shio station of PBC how anyone can think any other station is going to pay anything for this mess is beyond me.

[Kigali]

I don't completely disagree, but why blow 500 million to only get 50 in return if they're lucky. The ratings are lower than the UFC, especially with the key demo's.

They had this huge war chest that is not going to be replicated any time soon and did nothing with it.

You have no way to prove that.

[Kigali]

Boxing is done in the USA Floyd vs Pacquaio killed the casuals

keep telling yourself that.

[RSBonos]

You have no way to prove that.

Whatever, I wasn't even trying to inflate it, but it's at least 300, without looking it up. It doesn't even matter, it all went down the toilet. The ratings stink and they already destroyed the market by giving everything away for free.

[Kigali]

Whatever, I wasn't even trying to inflate it, but it's at least 300, without looking it up. It doesn't even matter, it all went down the toilet. The ratings stink and they already destroyed the market by giving everything away for free.

No it didn't.....

You act like you lost some of your pesos in the deal.

[Mitchell Kane]

Where's the new information? You mean the new rumor, right? How many times have we heard it's the death of PBC this year? A random user on Reddit said they wouldn't make it past June and the boxing media took it and ran with it.

There is one person who can tell us what's going on with HBO boxing, yet he chooses to do a 5 part series on Al Haymon in which all we learned was he had an afro in college. I can pull up numerous articles written about PBC. Can you show me any that talk in depth about HBO's boxing budget problem? They invested $100 mil into a series that won't even be shown a second season. Simmons is reported to make $10 mil a year. They invested heavy in his show and website. And he couldn't even crack 300k his debut show that's been being heavily pushed for almost a year. Everyone will say HBO cut their boxing budget but no one will take a serious look into what's going on and if HBO even plans on staying in boxing. They still haven't filled Nelson's former position.

What are you talking about?

[Kigali]

What are you talking about?

You know what he's talking about.

Back up your doom and gloom stories with some actual proof.