Comments Thread For: Premier Boxing Champions: Still Lacking For Focus

[Boxfan83]

My points are:

1. UFC is a promotion
   
2. There are no world champions in UFC
   
3. The best MMA fighters don't fight the best MMA fighters because promotional outfits don't cross promote
   
4. MMA is more fractured than boxing.
   
5. Ali Act will make UFC adhere to the same rules as boxing. And they will encounter the same problems as boxing.

Eff Pandas

Idk much about MMA man, Im just saying you are a good debater but Eff Pandas is one of the best on here especially when it comes to MMA and UFC, he will have a field day whether if its agreeing with you or not IDK...

[ИATAS]

I said this from day one.....what has hurt PBC more than anything is its inconsistency!

Jumping from network to network on different days of the week and during different time slots is not the way to build a following.

I agree. I consider myself a hardcore boxing fan and I have no idea what's going on with PBC. Often times I find out about a PBC card like an hour before the card starts.

I don't understand what they are doing. Seems obvious to me if you have an NBC primetime slot, you fill it with the best you have and maybe a rising talented star on the undercard, not Fonfara vs Joe Smith or whatever the hell. They just seem all over the place with no rhyme or reason.

To me it seems like we'll look back one day and think of it as a huge blunder and missed opportunity. The idea and concept is good, the execution is lacking.

A year ago or whatever I was hoping fights like Thurman vs Porter would be regular occurrences, not once in a blue moon.

[SterlingStained]

you can start with fixing your sorry ass ring entrances.


boxing in general just does a horrible job of marketing its athletes.

even floyd and manny, were horribly marketed.

floyd was devoid of any, and manny barely started at the back end of his career with the commercials and late night tv appearances.

boxing is still operating under traditional media and the the powers operating in boxing have not fully taken advantage of social media aspect of promotion.

[SterlingStained]

great article by my favorite bscene writer.

are we ever gonna get a floyd and manny career introspection analysis that you guys did with other great fighters retiring???

[Bullrider]

The thing I don't understand about these networks where PBC is shown is that they're not helping to promote the show. A 15 sec ad on a top show like Big Brother's new season, for instance, would help a ton in drawing viewers.

[R_Walken]

I think you are missing the point of the article, its basically saying HBO has put up crap just like PBC but a paid network is pulling just as many or a lil less than what PBC has done for free. Fighters become dormant with PBC, you have guys like GGG fighting bum after bum but at least hes fighting. PBC stars get a win and then where do they go?

This fallacy that PBC fighters are dormant just isn't true brought on by anti PBC media and the public eats it up . Since March 2015

GGG- 3 fights 1 PPV
Kovalev - 3 fights
Postol - 1 fight & 1 fight on PBC undercard
Canelo 3 / 2 PPV
Vargas - 2
Bradley 3 / 1 PPV
Matthysse 2
Chocolatito - 3 / 1PPV
Loma - 3 / 1 PPV
Rios - 2
Ortiz - 4 / 2 off HBo

Now compare with

Thurman - 2
Danny Garcia - 3
Wilder - 3
Charlo - 4
Lara - 3
Jacobs - 3
Quillen - 3
Broner - 4
Spence - 5
Degeale - 3
Badou Jack - 3 / 1 PPV

I don't know about you but to me it would appear that the PBc fighters are actually fighting more often then HBo fighters especially if you consider them fighting off PPV. So what's your next made up complaint going to be

[Finito2K]

This fallacy that PBC fighters are dormant just isn't true brought on by anti PBC media and the public eats it up . Since March 2015

GGG- 3 fights 1 PPV
Kovalev - 3 fights
Postol - 1 fight & 1 fight on PBC undercard
Canelo 3 / 2 PPV
Vargas - 2
Bradley 3 / 1 PPV
Matthysse 2
Chocolatito - 3 / 1PPV
Loma - 3 / 1 PPV
Rios - 2
Ortiz - 4 / 2 off HBo

Now compare with

Thurman - 2
Danny Garcia - 3
Wilder - 3
Charlo - 4
Lara - 3
Jacobs - 3
Quillen - 3
Broner - 4
Spence - 5
Degeale - 3
Badou Jack - 3 / 1 PPV

I don't know about you but to me it would appear that the PBc fighters are actually fighting more often then HBo fighters especially if you consider them fighting off PPV. So what's your next made up complaint going to be

As they should be. PBC does have more dates set aside than does HBO Sports.

But HBO's talent pool is definitely better at the box office.

[bigdunny1]

This fallacy that PBC fighters are dormant just isn't true brought on by anti PBC media and the public eats it up . Since March 2015

GGG- 3 fights 1 PPV
Kovalev - 3 fights
Postol - 1 fight & 1 fight on PBC undercard
Canelo 3 / 2 PPV
Vargas - 2
Bradley 3 / 1 PPV
Matthysse 2
Chocolatito - 3 / 1PPV
Loma - 3 / 1 PPV
Rios - 2
Ortiz - 4 / 2 off HBo

Now compare with

Thurman - 2
Danny Garcia - 3
Wilder - 3
Charlo - 4
Lara - 3
Jacobs - 3
Quillen - 3
Broner - 4
Spence - 5
Degeale - 3
Badou Jack - 3 / 1 PPV

I don't know about you but to me it would appear that the PBc fighters are actually fighting more often then HBo fighters especially if you consider them fighting off PPV. So what's your next made up complaint going to be

Why don't you post how often these guys are fighting since the middle to late last year? I know why because EARLY last year PBC had more money so these guys fought more regularly. Then the cards bombed lost more money then expected and starting last fall the names headlining these cards started dropping in star power and the big names started becoming inactive or moving back to Showtime.

Thurman hasn't fought since last July
Porter hasn't fought since last June
Jacobs hasn't fought since the first week of last Dec and will not fight UNTIL maybe Sept
Quillin hasn't fought since last dec and has NO fight on the horizon
Danny hasn't fought since Jan and STILL has no fight lined up
Khan went a FULL year without fighting before facing Canelo May 7 (last pbc fight was May 29 2015)
Omar Figueroa hasn't fought since last dec
Adonis Stevenson hasn't fought since 9/11/2015 and doens't have a fight until 7/29/2016
Devon Alexander hasn't fought since last nov

Since middle of last year these guys have all become virtually once a year inactive fighters. And I'm sure there is more I haven't even thought of.

[Butt stuff]

In the few months since he won his paper title, Eddie Hearn has made Anthony Joshua a bigger name IN THE STATES than Deontay Wilder. If Haymon had the foggiest idea of what he was doing, that would never have happened.

Uncle Al may be a good businessman, and he may have been great at promoting music shows, but he absloutely sucks as a boxing promoter.

Like AJ, Wilder has a paper world title, genuine one-punch power, a string of KO wins over nobodies, and an engaging personality which comes over well on TV and videos.

Casual fans don't know, or care, that Deontay and AJ have never beaten anybody worth a damn. They look the part and they deliver the goods - against the right opponents at least.

Eddie Hearn knows how to exploit the ignorance of the casual fan base and is turning AJ into a mainstream star. Haymon hasn't a clue, so despite having been a "world champion" a year longer than AJ, Deontay can walk down the high street in his own home town, and hardly anyone will know who the fuck he is.

I would say wilder has an even more engaging and entertaining personality than AJ, he's bit of a plank... Exciting fighter though.

[sicko]

With all that being said, they only been in business for a YEAR, they shouldn't give up. The recent UFC Deal for 4 Billion is why Haymon and his group should be VERY PATIENT and not give up. All of these major Brands and Companies start off slow and see losses probably for the first 2-5 years but then all it takes especially in boxing is that big Must See Star and all of a sudden business is booming and ratings are through the roof

Focusing on young NEW stars and building up new stars is what they probably should've done from the very beginning to be honest instead of overpaying guys to fight weak opponents on PBC

This might sound crazy but a PBC video game with EA Sports or 2K Sports would really help. That is a brilliant marketing tool to reach that young Demographic but it has to be a GREAT Game and would have to including Mayweather as the Cover Athlete or something like that