Comments Thread For: Premier Boxing Champions: Still Lacking For Focus

[Combat Talk Radio]

The article has one segment that's correct: It's a draw-based business.

Where the article stumbles is by not clearly defining the nature of "draw".

Draw is not just about your performance in the ring. (Ask Terrence Crawford)

Draw is not just about how likable you are. (Ask Floyd Mayweather)

Draw is not just about the division you're in. (Ask Manny Pacquiao)

No. Draw is about how marketable a guy really is.


In the older days of Atlantic City fights you had promoters paying for TV time on talk shows, magazines, etc. After that wound down you had shows like Arsenio Hall that were the top rated shows, showcasing boxers. Guys like Tyson and Toney and Roy Jones created "characters" - which made them marketable.

But the ultimate demise of the sport is not its fault. It's because people simply stopped caring so much about TV and radio.

UFC isn't as big as people make it out to be, either, for the same reasons.

Unless they can figure out how to put boxing on a Kardashian TV show, it'll never be what it used to be.

[Bronx2245]

PPV ruined the sport.

I was hoping that the PBC would ruin the PPV!

[The Big Dunn]

I think Cliff made very fair and honest points about PBC. They need to make changes immediately. Hopefully Schaeffer returning will get things moving in the right direction.

[nycsmooth]

The commentary is just awful... Marv Albert commentaryis just so boring w/ errors over the course of a broadcast that he makes... he just does not do his homework and he has no concept of boxing...

[MC Hammer]

Agree with a lot of what was said. PBC needs less network channels, (no need to block out the comp anymore they won't be able to afford the channels regardless and don't have the talent to make it work), a structure that uses the 2nd tier channels like bounce, spike and fs1 to build prospects, and to focus the Network channels on big fights, and lastly build those fighters. Promote fighters not just fights. That way if they lose they still do good numbers later in the bounce back fight. One thing Shaeffer, Arum and King knew how to do was build stars. The sport needs Star power.

They may need help from Mayweather as well as I believe he may be a big reason the Charlo twins will be on Love and Hip Hop Houston (he did promote their last fight for a reason, and it kind of follows what he did to get famous). Things like this build familiarity with casual fans.

[Lester Tutor]

oh Cliff Rold.... you're talking about PBC...you know full well that a particular Welterweight card is about to take place this weekend..

Couldn't you have waited until next week? lol

The bout will be the first prime-time boxing match televised by CBS since Muhammad Ali fought Leon Spinks in 1978.

Because of its historical significance and the quality of the fighters, this is one of the biggest boxing events of the year.

Here's the viewing information:
• When: Saturday, June 25 at 9 p.m. ET
• TV: CBS
• Live Stream: CBSSports.com

[shoog]

I remember last year Julian williams won a fight called out trout looked like that fight was going to get made and then jrock fights some bum ina wash out fight, im still waiting for jrock to fight the charlos or lara, whats that going to take another 2 years to make?

[Boxfan83]

This was my response earlier in a thread titled, "No excitement for Thurman Vs Porter"

PBC is just about watching random fights. There's no story to follow, Characters appear, then disappear.

Good point. Theres a lot that leads to this too.

[Boxfan83]

This article is f.ucking garbage. How much time did the author waste of his life typing this

A boxing outfit willing to go out on a limb and give more access to fans with a chance of growing the sport is hurting it. Is this for real ?

No one was cheering when Lara / Zavexk got made but that garbage fight on ESPN was a better match up then anything FNF put on in how long. My bad the historic fight of Monroe / Vera was the stuff that makes legends, it gave Willie a chance to get destroyed against Gennady

Has one writer written on the public Executions that happen on HBO. I mean I know everyone stopped what they were doing to watch the epic match ups of
GGG / Wade
GGG / Monroe
Kovalev / French Plumber
Crawford / Jean
Crawford / Lundy
Ortiz / Thompson
Verdejo / anyone he's faced on HBO
Mayfield / forget the guys name
Chocolito / Anyone he's faced on HBo

Literally HBo serves up 75% sh.it unless it's PPV but it's just crickets like what upcoming fights have they announced
Ward / Brand = Birderline garbage
Kov / Chilemba = Decent
Fury / Klit = Good

their only great fight is PPV in Postol / Crawford

This is one of the problem with boxing , is the media they love to tear it down You wouldn't read any of this deprecating writing in the UFC, NBA, NHL with the reporters that cover the sport

Not saying the PBc is above critique , obviously some match ups suck balls, a more consistent schedule would Probably help, The production team could use some work but F.uck at least their trying to give fans competitive fights on a accessible platform.

I think you are missing the point of the article, its basically saying HBO has put up crap just like PBC but a paid network is pulling just as many or a lil less than what PBC has done for free. Fighters become dormant with PBC, you have guys like GGG fighting bum after bum but at least hes fighting. PBC stars get a win and then where do they go?

[BlakBread904]

Good article...Cliff outlined several of my complaints w/ PBC. I still watch it though. but often it's like "What's next?" they've done a poor job of promoting their fighters.