Good article. Considering the sort of matchmaking Haymon could have delivered he has served up a lot of mediocrity with no rational structure.
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I see all you guys saying that the fights don't lead anywhere but do you guys not realize that it's happening
LSC /Mares
Framton / Quigg = LSC / Frampton in July with the winner probably getting Russel or Frampton / Selby
Thurman / Porter
Garcia / Guererro.
Garcia probably fighting the winner at the end on the year with Spence waiting in the wings if he gets a strap
Badou / Dirrell. , Badou / Groves , Badou / Bute
Degeale / Dirrell. , Degeale / Bute , Deeale / Porky = Degeale / Jack in sept
Lara / Vanes
Charlo / Trout
Charlo / Jackson
Andrade / Nelson
With a combination of these winners likely mixing it up to see who dominant at 154
Quillen / Jacobs met already the two best MW in the stable
175 was looking like it was doing the same thing but ,Fonfara lost and probably be some reorganization and more easy defences for Adonis
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Originally posted by R_Walken View PostI see all you guys saying that the fights don't lead anywhere but do you guys not realize that it's happening
LSC /Mares
Framton / Quigg = LSC / Frampton in July with the winner probably getting Russel or Frampton / Selby
Thurman / Porter
Garcia / Guererro.
Garcia probably fighting the winner at the end on the year with Spence waiting in the wings if he gets a strap
Badou / Dirrell. , Badou / Groves , Badou / Bute
Degeale / Dirrell. , Degeale / Bute , Deeale / Porky = Degeale / Jack in sept
Lara / Vanes
Charlo / Trout
Charlo / Jackson
Andrade / Nelson
With a combination of these winners likely mixing it up to see who dominant at 154
Quillen / Jacobs met already the two best MW in the stable
175 was looking like it was doing the same thing but ,Fonfara lost and probably be some reorganization and more easy defences for Adonis
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Great Idea, WRONG SPORT! Haymon would be better off buying Bellator to be honest instead of investing in Boxing which is a sport that is at its lowest it has been in a long time in the US and I see it continuing to decline. EVERYBODY is struggling, every promotion, every network it is not what it use to be unfortunately. Mayweather vs Pacquiao not happening is what kept people talking for years especially casuals, what that out of the way WTF is it for casuals to talk about in boxing?
Don't matter what fights you serve up, yeah it is a big fight to us the hardcover fans but others have no clue who either is. Mainstream Media don't even talk boxing unless Mayweather is attached to it. Without Mainstream Media discussing your sport Daily, it will NEVER be as big as the others in the US
Respect the effort and the idea but I don't think it is anything he can do, the sport IN GENERAL is just in a very bad Space in the US right now and I honestly don't know how they can fix it. I think Personality is probably more important than just giving the fans big match ups!
Fans need to find you interesting not just in your match ups but outside the ring when you're not fighting.Last edited by sicko; 06-23-2016, 01:55 AM.
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Originally posted by R_Walken View PostThat was almost funny
But what part of what I wrote isn't true ?
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Oh my god cliff shutup you big fat hater!!! Why dont u say something bad bout hbo oh thas rite u wont cuz your a hater who cant stand that a black man on top and finna take ovah boxin sheeeeeeeeeit!!!
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Originally posted by Humean View PostIt's less what you have put that is false than what you have left out. It is plain to see that PBC has been a bit of a failure, they could have done far better. Rold's article summed it up pretty nicely. You just sound like a true believer, it is creepy.
I pointed out that since the PBc started, the division they have a firm grasp on they've been set it up and are making strides of having the best fight the best with in their stable and pointed towards the progression that's been made
And your counter is it's not what I wrote that shows their starting to match
Thier best against each other, because you can't deny that they've been doing it , but now it's what I Didnt write. You realize how f.ucking dumb you sound right.
I've always admitted I want to see this thing succeed, as a fan More boxing for me That is easily accessible is a good thing. Is the PBC beyond criticism, F.uck no there's lots of things to critique and complain about. But with them, HBo & what's happening in the UK there's decents fights going on almost every week that's a good thing for a fan of the sport. But yeah I guess that's coming off as creepy.
Is it a failure I Wouldnt say that, is it a runaway success not a chance. But I think some groundworks in place and hopefully it grows. I Don't see boxing ever being the prominent sport it once was but there's more options now with more availability. It's already getting Mls / Premier league / NHL ratings that's not a bad start its not its the XFL were its bombed after 2 weeks. I bet if you look on those sports sites fans aren't hoping that they pull the plug of their sport being featured on National TV. And I'm not saying journalista can't write negative reviews about the product but if you don't think the majority are biased then I don't know what to say and this article was sh.it plain and simple.
Just wondering What would you have done differently To make you happy and not be a typical life hating miserable boxing fan that complains just to complain.
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Originally posted by R_Walken View PostYeah so your complaint is that the best aren't fighting the best, which in this sport no one is
I pointed out that since the PBc started, the division they have a firm grasp on they've been set it up and are making strides of having the best fight the best with in their stable and pointed towards the progression that's been made
And your counter is it's not what I wrote that shows their starting to match
Thier best against each other, because you can't deny that they've been doing it , but now it's what I Didnt write. You realize how f.ucking dumb you sound right.
I've always admitted I want to see this thing succeed, as a fan More boxing for me That is easily accessible is a good thing. Is the PBC beyond criticism, F.uck no there's lots of things to critique and complain about. But with them, HBo & what's happening in the UK there's decents fights going on almost every week that's a good thing for a fan of the sport. But yeah I guess that's coming off as creepy.
Is it a failure I Wouldnt say that, is it a runaway success not a chance. But I think some groundworks in place and hopefully it grows. I Don't see boxing ever being the prominent sport it once was but there's more options now with more availability. It's already getting Mls / Premier league / NHL ratings that's not a bad start its not its the XFL were its bombed after 2 weeks. I bet if you look on those sports sites fans aren't hoping that they pull the plug of their sport being featured on National TV. And I'm not saying journalista can't write negative reviews about the product but if you don't think the majority are biased then I don't know what to say and this article was sh.it plain and simple.
Just wondering What would you have done differently To make you happy and not be a typical life hating miserable boxing fan that complains just to complain.
This is basically about agendas, because no one in the media is even criticizing HBO or Arum. It's almost like they are trying to run the PBC out of business to return to what? A fight or 2 per month and sad FNF matchups? The PBC has been way better than that. I don't care about bells and whistles like Lampley's "bam, bam, bam" or Harold's score card, I want to see good matchups. Thurman-Porter is not only a good matchup, it's a competive and relevant matchup in the welterweight division. Fights like Canelo-Khan or the rumored Canelo-Smith are not competitive. The one good fight, GGG-Canelo, Golden Boy is going to stall 2 years to possibly make.
I'm looking forward to Crawford-Postol and especially Kovalev-Ward, but these fights will be on PPV? Crawford-Postol is a great fight, but definitely not a PPV fight. The fights that end up on regular HBO are crap. And rising stars like Anthony Joshua have signed with Showtime.
There are lots of fights on Showtime and CBS this Saturday, and there is even a smaller card on NBC, a card on Fox this coming Tuesday, on ****** the Friday after, and on ESPN the following Saturday. Despite the naysayers, I'm certainly looking forward to a lot of boxing this weekend. There are some competitive scraps, Thurman-Porter, Hurd-Molina and Groves-Murray. Joshua and Eubank Jr. should get past their opponents, but I still want to see these fights - because as the Fonfara fight demonstrated, you never know...)
I'm a fan of the sport, not a particular promoter or network. Sometimes I think some of these writers are being paid off to be negative towards the PBC, which some predicted would have failed by now, yet they are still going strong.
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