Comments Thread For: Malignaggi: Klitschko's Time May Have Passed, Fury Wins Again

[Vinnykin]

I'm not trying to mock you all, cut the small man syndrome out already.

Do you genuinely believe Wlad wearing punchers gloves benefits Fury ? Seriously dude, Fury looked rattled off of the real one meaningful punch with spite we saw, think what Wlad with punchers gloves would do. I don't care if Fury didnt wear gloves, he isn't stopping Klitschko, period. He hasn't got it in him. He's like his father, feather fisted.

"LMAO" at statements I make is mocking, it has nothing to do with small man syndrome what are you talking about?

Yes I do believe it benefits Fury...1. I've already said I think Klit should have been stopped in the first fight 2. I believe Fury will do better in this fight without the disadvantages imposed on him and the improvements made since (strength, confidence etc)

If you add those 2 beliefs together why the hell would I think it benefits Klitschko? Nothing from the first fight makes me think Klitschko will do better, taking into account everything I have mentioned as well (gloves, ring, home advantage, confidence, Fury's expected improvements)

Fury will stop him late rounds. That's my prediction. If you want to bet on a different outcome then we can do it

[LacedUp]

Gifted four rounds by two judges, ie the majority. Im your reality he won 1 round, maybe if you keep telling yourself that you'll feel more comfortable as the fight approaches, go for it, I won't begrudge you. Thankfully we have professional judges as opposed to biased fan boys judging fights, or maybe Fury has in fact a closet fan in the third judge. This is boxing nothing would surprise me.

Well Harold Lederman, one of the most experienced judges, agrees with me. He gave him 3 rounds and said round 1 was probably Fury's.

There's absolutely no doubt that the rounds that could have gone either way went to Klitschko as the hometown boy. If the same happens in part 2 then it's 12-0 Fury.

[LacedUp]

You're aware Wlad was chasing multiple records, the likes of Mormeck and Pianeta being more than adequate opposition compared to the likes Joe Louis lined up. It's all moot anyway and I care none to debate it when you've got Wilder successfully defending against lower quality such as Szpilka, Molina for instance and Joshua operating at an even lower level since picking up the title against trips such as Breazeale. I gotta admit I'm excited about the prospects of Wilder's next defence, Arreola, it's a damn shame when Arreola of today is considered a step up to what you've been facing, and Breazeale who was being out pointed by Amir LOL, wait for it .... Mansour as an opponent considered your toughest test to date.

Klitschko was facing guys like Wach because guys like Fury wouldn't face him, trying in earnest to line up undefeated guys for his record hence approach for Chisora in 2010, Fury 2012 and Pianeta in 2013, the others such as Leapai and Thompson being mandated right, but you'd have preferred he vacated as Wilder and Joshua are more exciting of course with their thrilling defences.

Bringing up Joe Louis, a fighter who fought nearly 100 years ago to justify wlad picking opponents below top 30 level, yet complain about a 6'7 undefeated american Olympian in Joshua's first defense.

the irony is strong with this one.

[LacedUp]

You're the scheriproct kid. Years of torid self **** abuse have corrupted your psyche. In many ways I wish Klitschko could have lost sooner to ease your suffering.

I wished that too.

FYI here's Dr Butthammer

[LacedUp]

It is a shame Fury ducked out in November 2012, I believe that would have been a great fight. Fury was coming off of a career high win over Chisora just like Fury was in 2014, their really isn't much more to Fury than their was before the Klitschko win although he was a little more entertaining and willing to get into exciting fights back then as he hadn't been knocked down by the pillow fisted cruiser until afterwards, showing his limitations, so I suppose the fight could have been more exciting and more action against Klitschko had Fury not had this new negative approach.

Wlad looks like he's slowing down drastically over the past couple of years, his activity tellingly showing the decrease in punch outout, thrown and landed. The years spent by the best challengers trying to avoid Wlad by clamouring for a shot at the recently vacated Klitschko created a vacuum and a further lull in his ability to get the best challengers to challenge him earlier as opposed to the likes of Fury and Wilder who openly stated they'd wait for him to get older.

Bitter that Wlad didn't get to Fury when he was a kid

Pathetic.

[LacedUp]

Unfortunately Scott, this sums up boxing in general for me. Fights never happen when they should, either due to money or individuals simply not fancying the challenge of facing a tougher opponent.

This is why I hope to see Joshua facing Haye (yes I know you don't agree), but I want to see Joshua face Haye at a time in AJ's career where it would be easier to avoid Haye, as that would tell me Joshua isn't mapping out an easy route, protecting himself from dangerous opponents.

As for Fury/Wlad, Possibly Wlads defeat may have reinvigorated Klitschko for this fight, just please, not another 12 rounds of face pulling!

Why did it have to happen in 2012? That's a completely ridiculous notion. Fury was a fat kid who couldn't even sit down on punches.

Wladimir was a big favourite and all of the fanboys told me he'd knock Fury cold.

Now all of a sudden it should have happened in 2012

Absolutely laughable.

[BlackRevolver]

Why did it have to happen in 2012? That's a completely ridiculous notion. Fury was a fat kid who couldn't even sit down on punches.

Wladimir was a big favourite and all of the fanboys told me he'd knock Fury cold.

Now all of a sudden it should have happened in 2012

Absolutely laughable.

I was more discussing fights in general, that fail to happen at the right time, but it appears Scott is based in Germany and was hoping to watch a prime Wlad punish Fury.

Although you can still argue that its better for boxing if young (hungry) fighters face champions in their prime, rather then champions on the decline facing fighters who can take advantage.

[LacedUp]

I was more discussing fights in general, that fail to happen at the right time, but it appears Scott is based in Germany and was hoping to watch a prime Wlad punish Fury.

Although you can still argue that its better for boxing if young (hungry) fighters face champions in their prime, rather then champions on the decline facing fighters who can take advantage.

Fury fought a Wlad who was undefeated for 11 years and hadn't lost more than 3 rounds on a scorecard in nearly 10 years.

Wlad didn't fight any differently against Fury than he did against many others when he was in his prime.

Take a look at this thread:

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...2#post16785872

[BlackRevolver]

Fury fought a Wlad who was undefeated for 11 years and hadn't lost more than 3 rounds on a scorecard in nearly 10 years.

Wlad didn't fight any differently against Fury than he did against many others when he was in his prime.

Take a look at this thread:

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...2#post16785872

I'm not a great fan of Wlad, not just his lack of style inside (and out of the ring) but his long (depressing) reign will go down in history in an era when HW Boxing universally lost respect from boxing fans.

No excitement, very few great fights, two brothers refusing to fight each other and when you look through the list of Wlads opponents, some posters on here need to rethink before they criticise certain boxers for their choice of opponent, as look at the names of Wlads opponents when he was champion, how many talented fighters did he face? Answers on a postcard.

That said, Wlad is a naturally talented boxer who could be more aggressive, he chose to box in the manner he did, so while you are right in saying his gameplan would have been the same, I believe a prime Wlad would have realised the danger he was in of losing the fight and defeated Fury.

[Jewish-Reptile]

Fury fought a Wlad who was undefeated for 11 years and hadn't lost more than 3 rounds on a scorecard in nearly 10 years.

Wlad didn't fight any differently against Fury than he did against many others when he was in his prime.

Take a look at this thread:

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...2#post16785872

You were the one stating Wlad had shown decline as early as the Povetkin fight and he'd lost a step in the Pulev fight. I remember you saying it may not be enough for Fury to win but he will come out looking the best of any recent challengers in the past few years. Now you want full kudos for Fury ! I'm afraid it don't work like that, mate.