Boxing Heads....tell me why 3XG ISNT Lucas Matthysse 2016

[therealpugilist]

he did. he's beaten more top 10 comp than any active fighter in boxing in the last 3-4 years. all via knockout. none of the fights were close. it'd be icing on the cake if martinez, cotto, quillin, golovkin, or sturm hadn't blatantly ducked him.


you're literally the only "poster" left who ignores all of this. gennady golovkin is a pound for pounder. acknowledge it it or you're a fanboy.



who is in your top 10 p4p?

and whats your top 10 at MW, JMW, and SMW. let's see if you've given an ounce of thought to any of this. i think you're just a hater, and you respond in whatever manner fits that agenda. so does everybody else.

i posted mine, post yours...im not the only POSTER who doesn't give credit for fights that DIDNT HAPPEN OR give credit for being handed belts

[therealpugilist]

he did. he's beaten more top 10 comp than any active fighter in boxing in the last 3-4 years. all via knockout. none of the fights were close. it'd be icing on the cake if martinez, cotto, quillin, golovkin, or sturm hadn't blatantly ducked him.


you're literally the only "poster" left who ignores all of this. gennady golovkin is a pound for pounder. acknowledge it it or you're a fanboy.



who is in your top 10 p4p?

and whats your top 10 at MW, JMW, and SMW. let's see if you've given an ounce of thought to any of this. i think you're just a hater, and you respond in whatever manner fits that agenda. so does everybody else.

....so where is your p4p list....no copy and paste bro

[elgu]

I dont get it you are one of the same posters who wanted Mayweather to fight GGG tho

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...eather&page=10

"Cotto's best opponent right now in terms of money is Canelo. People won't buy into the idea that this new Cotto beat Mayweather.

GGG is not a better fighter than Floyd but weight classes due exist for a reason which is why he pummels both Cotto and Floyd and he is the rightful middleweight champion. GGG wouldl sit patiently behind his great jab and then cut the ring on both of them and slay them against the ropes."

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Boxing Heads....tell me why 3XG ISNT Lucas Matthysse 2016

School me.........ok...........GO!

He's never been in a fight that people can look at and think, yeah GGG could have lost that one. He hardly ever even loses a round and he usually knocks the opponent out.

Matts was in a few fights that he lost (Alexander and Judah) where they could have gone either way but he still came out on the short end of the stick. GGG eliminates any doubt when he is in the ring, there is nothing to consider.

Matts has been in several 50-50 type fights. People want to lump them together because they are both known as power punchers. GGG and Matts are both decent technical boxers but GGG is more complete with his footwork and setting people up for his punches.

[bojangles1987]

he isnt in my opinion...p4p is opinion based......he definitely has the talent...he just isnt p4p in my book.

having belts handed to him instead of fighting for them doesnt help...he is on the cusp IMO

The top ten fighters in the world in my opinion are, in no order...top of my head

Kovalev
Juan Francisco Estada
Chocolatito
Skinsuke Yamanaka
Rigondeaux
Ward
Crawford
Loma
Bradley(he has only lost to an ATG, what can you do, is still one of the best p4p imo)
Naoya Inoue


honorable mention: GGG, Danny Garcia, Viktor Postol, Adonis Stevenson, and Degale



I have GGG top 15...he is on the cusp...a win over Canelo, BJS, Qullin or Lara gets him in.

now posts yours

How can you knock Golovkin's competition as not p4p worthy and then say he could get in with wins over Saunders or Quillin? He has beaten multiple fighters on their level already.

Tim Bradley is probably my favorite fighter today and I can say it is absolutely ridiculous to have him p4p and not Golovkin. Bradley's last 2-3 years have seen him lose twice to Pacquiao and only beat Chaves and Vargas. Also, talking down Golovkin's competition and then listing Loma is very hypocritical. And Stevenson ahead of Golovkin? When is the last time he beat anyone worth a damn? Postol? Degale? Rigondeaux has done nothing worth mentioning in years, either, and has been in a rough fight where he hit the deck twice with an average opponent.

If Golovkin hit the deck twice against an average opponent, you would make 5 threads everyday bringing it up. He belongs above those names, at least.

[extracurRICular]

He's never been in a fight that people can look at and think, yeah GGG could have lost that one. He hardly ever even loses a round and he usually knocks the opponent out.

Matts was in a few fights that he lost (Alexander and Judah) where they could have gone either way but he still came out on the short end of the stick. GGG eliminates any doubt when he is in the ring, there is nothing to consider.

Matts has been in several 50-50 type fights. People want to lump them together because they are both known as power punchers. GGG and Matts are both decent technical boxers but GGG is more complete with his footwork and setting people up for his punches.

Thin is doe Matty was until he wasn't........that's all im sayin bout GGG

[therealpugilist]

How can you knock Golovkin's competition as not p4p worthy and then say he could get in with wins over Saunders or Quillin? He has beaten multiple fighters on their level already.

Tim Bradley is probably my favorite fighter today and I can say it is absolutely ridiculous to have him p4p and not Golovkin. Bradley's last 2-3 years have seen him lose twice to Pacquiao and only beat Chaves and Vargas. Also, talking down Golovkin's competition and then listing Loma is very hypocritical. And Stevenson ahead of Golovkin? When is the last time he beat anyone worth a damn? Postol? Degale? Rigondeaux has done nothing worth mentioning in years, either, and has been in a rough fight where he hit the deck twice with an average opponent.

If Golovkin hit the deck twice against an average opponent, you would make 5 threads everyday bringing it up. He belongs above those names, at least.

Where is your list...I sd in no order...did you read

Bradley fought far better opposition beat more champs, only lost to a top 20 p4p all timer @ that... Titles in 2 divisions

Postol, degale is on the cusp with GGG

Rigo actually beat a future hall of famer...earned all his belts in the ring n got black balled. If you say GGG is ducked what about rigo. His own promo **** on him

Loma has skills n is already a 2 division title holder

The guys I listed ahead of him took more risks n fought for their belts


So about that p4p list of yours....

[M Bison]

GGG has beat better and he isn't one dimensional like Lucas Matthysse can be.
Contrary to people saying GGG is only a brawler that is just a load of rubbish the guy can box, brawl and I'm sure he could even make it a dirty fight like Ward does in 95% of his fights.

Lucas fights in a weaker division too.

[therealpugilist]

How can you knock Golovkin's competition as not p4p worthy and then say he could get in with wins over Saunders or Quillin? He has beaten multiple fighters on their level already.

Tim Bradley is probably my favorite fighter today and I can say it is absolutely ridiculous to have him p4p and not Golovkin. Bradley's last 2-3 years have seen him lose twice to Pacquiao and only beat Chaves and Vargas. Also, talking down Golovkin's competition and then listing Loma is very hypocritical. And Stevenson ahead of Golovkin? When is the last time he beat anyone worth a damn? Postol? Degale? Rigondeaux has done nothing worth mentioning in years, either, and has been in a rough fight where he hit the deck twice with an average opponent.

If Golovkin hit the deck twice against an average opponent, you would make 5 threads everyday bringing it up. He belongs above those names, at least.

Just like I thought ....no list


Don't criticize my opinion when you can't even support your own.

Hypocrite

[bojangles1987]

Where is your list...I sd in no order...did you read

Bradley fought far better opposition beat more champs, only lost to a top 20 p4p all timer @ that... Titles in 2 divisions

Postol, degale is on the cusp with GGG

Rigo actually beat a future hall of famer...earned all his belts in the ring n got black balled. If you say GGG is ducked what about rigo. His own promo **** on him

Loma has skills n is already a 2 division title holder

The guys I listed ahead of him took more risks n fought for their belts


So about that p4p list of yours....

Why bother typing up my list when I'm trying to show that he belongs above names on yours?

So if they did something at some point, it doesn't matter that they've done nothing in a long time? That's kind of ******. By that logic Roy Jones should still be p4p. Yes, Bradley has beaten better competition, but not anytime in the past 3 years. He also lost twice in that time frame. Yes, Rigondeaux beat Donaire. 3 years ago. Since then he has barely fought and against subpar competition, which he hasn't looked particularly great against. Meanwhile Golovkin has been one of the most dominant champions in the sport. Like I said, if Golovkin looked as vulnerable against some random Japanese fighter no one had ever heard of, you would claim he wasn't even top 20 p4p. You'd make threads every day criticizing him for it. So having Rigondeaux on a p4p list and not Golovkin is absurd.

And the Loma point is ridiculous. So basically you're saying Golovkin doesn't have skills, and that two paper belts in two divisions makes his competition better just because he went up a division? Moving up a division doesn't automatically give a fighter credit as fighting better competition than someone who has not. Adrien Broner managed to move up like 3 divisions without beating anyone worth a damn. So his resume was better than Kovalev's just because he was moving up divisions? Loma's wins are on the same level as Golovkin's, and Golovkin has a lot more of them.

Ugh, why am I bothering?