Boxing Heads....tell me why 3XG ISNT Lucas Matthysse 2016

[therealpugilist]

Why bother typing up my list when I'm trying to show that he belongs above names on yours?

So if they did something at some point, it doesn't matter that they've done nothing in a long time? That's kind of ******. By that logic Roy Jones should still be p4p. Yes, Bradley has beaten better competition, but not anytime in the past 3 years. He also lost twice in that time frame. Yes, Rigondeaux beat Donaire. 3 years ago. Since then he has barely fought and against subpar competition, which he hasn't looked particularly great against. Meanwhile Golovkin has been one of the most dominant champions in the sport. Like I said, if Golovkin looked as vulnerable against some random Japanese fighter no one had ever heard of, you would claim he wasn't even top 20 p4p. You'd make threads every day criticizing him for it. So having Rigondeaux on a p4p list and not Golovkin is absurd.

And the Loma point is ridiculous. So basically you're saying Golovkin doesn't have skills, and that two paper belts in two divisions makes his competition better just because he went up a division? Moving up a division doesn't automatically give a fighter credit as fighting better competition than someone who has not. Adrien Broner managed to move up like 3 divisions without beating anyone worth a damn. So his resume was better than Kovalev's just because he was moving up divisions? Loma's wins are on the same level as Golovkin's, and Golovkin has a lot more of them.

Ugh, why am I bothering?

you talking all this logic, and variables breaking down my list but where is yours. I called your bluff

you probably dont know enough boxers outside your favorites to put a legitimate list together....thats ok my friend....just stay in your lane when I give my opinion because I support it with facts and stats.

If you cant post a list bro, dont ask me to because it makes your opinion baseless.

[therealpugilist]

Why bother typing up my list when I'm trying to show that he belongs above names on yours?

So if they did something at some point, it doesn't matter that they've done nothing in a long time? That's kind of ******. By that logic Roy Jones should still be p4p. Yes, Bradley has beaten better competition, but not anytime in the past 3 years. He also lost twice in that time frame. Yes, Rigondeaux beat Donaire. 3 years ago. Since then he has barely fought and against subpar competition, which he hasn't looked particularly great against. Meanwhile Golovkin has been one of the most dominant champions in the sport. Like I said, if Golovkin looked as vulnerable against some random Japanese fighter no one had ever heard of, you would claim he wasn't even top 20 p4p. You'd make threads every day criticizing him for it. So having Rigondeaux on a p4p list and not Golovkin is absurd.

And the Loma point is ridiculous. So basically you're saying Golovkin doesn't have skills, and that two paper belts in two divisions makes his competition better just because he went up a division? Moving up a division doesn't automatically give a fighter credit as fighting better competition than someone who has not. Adrien Broner managed to move up like 3 divisions without beating anyone worth a damn. So his resume was better than Kovalev's just because he was moving up divisions? Loma's wins are on the same level as Golovkin's, and Golovkin has a lot more of them.

Ugh, why am I bothering?

paper belts? He fought for his belts unlike GGG

get off his nuts man and stop being hypocritcal.....how can you be legitimate "unified" champion when you didnt even fight for 2 out 3 belts that you hold.


Its ok you like him as a fighter, I do too but the criticism I give is no different than any other overhyped fighter with a thin resume.

Liek i said he is on the cusp but IMO he is not top ten p4p

[therealpugilist]

he did. he's beaten more top 10 comp than any active fighter in boxing in the last 3-4 years. all via knockout. none of the fights were close. it'd be icing on the cake if martinez, cotto, quillin, golovkin, or sturm hadn't blatantly ducked him.


you're literally the only "poster" left who ignores all of this. gennady golovkin is a pound for pounder. acknowledge it it or you're a fanboy.



who is in your top 10 p4p?

and whats your top 10 at MW, JMW, and SMW. let's see if you've given an ounce of thought to any of this. i think you're just a hater, and you respond in whatever manner fits that agenda. so does everybody else.

I posted my list yesterday, glad a didnt hold my breath waiting for you.....dont criticize my opinion which i support with facts and stats if you dont even have one of your own

just seem like a butthurt GGG fanatic

[CaneloMaidana]

How can you knock Golovkin's competition as not p4p worthy and then say he could get in with wins over Saunders or Quillin? He has beaten multiple fighters on their level already.

Tim Bradley is probably my favorite fighter today and I can say it is absolutely ridiculous to have him p4p and not Golovkin. Bradley's last 2-3 years have seen him lose twice to Pacquiao and only beat Chaves and Vargas. Also, talking down Golovkin's competition and then listing Loma is very hypocritical. And Stevenson ahead of Golovkin? When is the last time he beat anyone worth a damn? Postol? Degale? Rigondeaux has done nothing worth mentioning in years, either, and has been in a rough fight where he hit the deck twice with an average opponent.

If Golovkin hit the deck twice against an average opponent, you would make 5 threads everyday bringing it up. He belongs above those names, at least.

You only want to count last 2 years of Bradley, the difference is Bradley fought Manny, Marquez, Devon, Chaves, Vargas, Vazquez, Abregu and Peterson and your coward is fighting Wade and Monroe. It's like saying Quillin is better than Bradley cause hey 1 loss.

[therealpugilist]

You only want to count last 2 years of Bradley, the difference is Bradley fought Manny, Marquez, Devon, Chaves, Vargas, Vazquez, Abregu and Peterson and your coward is fighting Wade and Monroe. It's like saying Quillin is better than Bradley cause hey 1 loss.

Bradley has consistently fought world class opposition in 2 weight divisions.....These same dudes said GGG is too small for 168 yet bradley has fought at 140-147 is small for a welter and is planning on 154 before he retires.....great fighters take risks....bradley dares to be great...GGGG hasnt yet

[CaneloMaidana]

Why bother typing up my list when I'm trying to show that he belongs above names on yours?

So if they did something at some point, it doesn't matter that they've done nothing in a long time? That's kind of ******. By that logic Roy Jones should still be p4p. Yes, Bradley has beaten better competition, but not anytime in the past 3 years. He also lost twice in that time frame. Yes, Rigondeaux beat Donaire. 3 years ago. Since then he has barely fought and against subpar competition, which he hasn't looked particularly great against. Meanwhile Golovkin has been one of the most dominant champions in the sport. Like I said, if Golovkin looked as vulnerable against some random Japanese fighter no one had ever heard of, you would claim he wasn't even top 20 p4p. You'd make threads every day criticizing him for it. So having Rigondeaux on a p4p list and not Golovkin is absurd.

And the Loma point is ridiculous. So basically you're saying Golovkin doesn't have skills, and that two paper belts in two divisions makes his competition better just because he went up a division? Moving up a division doesn't automatically give a fighter credit as fighting better competition than someone who has not. Adrien Broner managed to move up like 3 divisions without beating anyone worth a damn. So his resume was better than Kovalev's just because he was moving up divisions? Loma's wins are on the same level as Golovkin's, and Golovkin has a lot more of them.

Ugh, why am I bothering?

Golovkin has never fought a Rican champ.

Golovkin has never fought a Mexican champ.

Golovkin has never fought an American champ.

Loma has fought a Rican champ.

Loma has fought a Mexican champ.

Loma has fought an American champ.

Golovkin is simply a coward.

[CaneloMaidana]

Bradley has consistently fought world class opposition in 2 weight divisions.....These same dudes said GGG is too small for 168 yet bradley has fought at 140-147 is small for a welter and is planning on 154 before he retires.....great fighters take risks....bradley dares to be great...GGGG hasnt yet

Golovkin is a joke and I love how Loma is humiliating him.

[bigjavi973]

I replied to you comment in a thread related to my comment..so why the anger?? and by a lot of this forum, he was suppose to kill Garcia remember??

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[therealpugilist]

Golovkin is a joke and I love how Loma is humiliating him.

Loma takes risks and is skilled thats why he makes the cut in my top ten p4p

[extracurRICular]

Loma takes risks and is skilled thats why he makes the cut in my top ten p4p

After his last performance kinda hard to knock on the dude......