Boxing Heads....tell me why 3XG ISNT Lucas Matthysse 2016

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  • b00g13man
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    #31
    He doesn't appear as limited as Lucas obviously was, but then again, we haven't seen him with elite competition yet. That's what's frustrating. I'd like to know either way.

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    • El-blanco
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      #32
      Originally posted by GrandpaBernard
      hey la-puta go kick rocks in bum**** toronto


      Great response, Phaggot. Tell me more you dumb ****.

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      • ИATAS
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        #33
        Not many fighters went out of their way to avoid Matthysse, in fact they ran towards him because they knew he was beatable. Zab Judah, Devon Alexander. It seemed his fans on NSB totally forgot about those fights and if he was a beast like they said he would have KOd these dudes. I never jumped on that bandwagon but he was a fun fighter.

        Now if you watch the two fight, especially considering how sloppy Matthysse was literally falling down after missing wild punches, and think they are on the same level, then clearly you don't know **** about boxing.

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        • Tago Nang Tago
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          #34
          because they are entirely different people moron.

          are brandon rios and marquez the same?

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            #35
            Originally posted by bojangles1987
            Golovkin displays far more skill and beats similar opposition in far more impressive fashion. He's yet to fight the kind of competition Matthysse has, but what similar level opponents they have, Golovkin is performing much better.

            As big a fan of Lucas as I am, he was never the fighter Golovkin is.
            I disagree with that bit there, the rest i kinda agree with. Lucas destroyed Ajose olusegun who a lot of people thought was an awkward solid foe. Ajose is comaprable to a lot of opponents that GGG has faced so far. And Lucas destroyed in an impressive fashion just like GGG has done with (Geale or Ishida), So i wouldn't really say GGG has display more skill against similar level of opposition.

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            • therealpugilist
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              #36
              Originally posted by RavshinRicRude
              Boxing Heads....tell me why 3XG ISNT Lucas Matthysse 2016

              School me.........ok...........GO!
              at this point he is


              a fan friendly fighter, who is a ko artist, who is anointed the champion in the division. Though technically he never beat the man who beat the man so he isnt quite yet.

              There fans act similar

              difference is, Lucas has been in with the best of his divison and thats when his limitations became apparent.

              History repeats itself. People go overboard when a figher has some skills and big power regardless if they are beating good competition or not.....Thats usually the casuals

              Also the guy they are favored to beat is not beloved and are natural counterpunchers.....Garcia and Canelo


              We know how good Lucas is now...now its time for GGG to step up....dudes getting old

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              • therealpugilist
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                #37
                Originally posted by b00g13man
                He doesn't appear as limited as Lucas obviously was, but then again, we haven't seen him with elite competition yet. That's what's frustrating. I'd like to know either way.
                ......its that simple, but his die hard fans get upset when we say this...he has talent obviously but sheesh dude is the age most fighters retire at...step on the gas k2

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                • elgu
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                  #38
                  OP is clearly not a boxing fan, or if he is he's not very perceptive. GGG's jab, ring iq, punch selection, and ability to cut of the ring are way better than Lucas. It's really sad OP can't see this, maybe he should follow another sport.

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                  • therealpugilist
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by ИATAS
                    Not many fighters went out of their way to avoid Matthysse, in fact they ran towards him because they knew he was beatable. Zab Judah, Devon Alexander. It seemed his fans on NSB totally forgot about those fights and if he was a beast like they said he would have KOd these dudes. I never jumped on that bandwagon but he was a fun fighter.

                    Now if you watch the two fight, especially considering how sloppy Matthysse was literally falling down after missing wild punches, and think they are on the same level, then clearly you don't know **** about boxing.
                    i think it had more with him being unknown than "beatable"



                    Matthyssee was competing in one of the historically deep divisons in recent history and his era was no different

                    160 does not have the talent of 140.....its easy to look like a monster when your weight class is top heavy.

                    140 usually has 8 guys who are interchangeable in their rankings and they usually end up fighting each other.

                    GGG has fought any elite elusive boxers.....he'll most likely be swinging at air too...its easier to be a "monster" fighting average comp.


                    imo GGG is no better a pro than Matthyssee until proven otherwise. they apply their craft differently. People are acting like Lucas is skill less. He can box and punch. He just has fought clearly better fighters

                    if he was fighting 140 equivalent of GGG COMP he'd be a longtime unified champ by now but his division is tougher

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                    • elgu
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by therealpugilist
                      ......its that simple, but his die hard fans get upset when we say this...he has talent obviously but sheesh dude is the age most fighters retire at...step on the gas k2
                      K2 isn't the problem, boxers are. Martinez straight out ducked with his promoter saying that he would never let his fighter against such monster. Cotto got shook when Max Kellerman asked him about GGG. Canelo straight out dumped the belt and Froch would rather stay retire. Hell even Ward when he got the offer in 2012 decided to pass rather than take that risk.

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