At 130. Floyd smokes lomachenko

[Kigali]

If Floyd fought Salido in his second pro bout? Yeah, Salido probably would've beaten him as well. Lomachenko lost due to his inexperience at the pro level, not because of a lack of skill.

And Floyd didn't have wins over guys like Russell or Martinez in his first 7 fights. Not even close. He was fighting the Bobby Gieperts of the world at that point.

I know comp shows a lot, but since Loma was obviously a better amateur than Floyd, and has accomplished more in fewer fights as a pro (Floyd beat Genaro in fight #18) you have to admit that Lomachenko could eventually be viewed as a better p4p fighter if he continues this run. Time will tell


And this is coming from a Floyd fan.


But obviously this conversation is kind of moot considering that Floyd turned pro at a much younger age. Who knows how a longer Am career for Floyd or a shorter one for Loma could've affected their styles as pro fighters?

I just don't see it.

[therealpugilist]

Watching lomachenko,,, he is a good fighter, but nowhere near great like some of you fanboys claim... Had he fought a 130 floyd he would have been smoked

130 floyd was a beast and their is nothing Loma could hope to do but be competitive and see the finall bell


everything Loma does, Floyd does it better..loma would have to ko him to win and floyd was sturdy with great defense....

I like Loma but he doesnt belong in the same sentence as Mayweather at 130

[BillyBoxing]

Loma is 28...Where was Floyd at 28? 4 weight world champion competing for his 5th? .

Problem is you're not taking in count his amateur career wich is either igorance or being dishonnest.

BIG MISTAKE since Loma is ranked as one of the greatest olympic/ams fighter.
The greatest according to many observers.

Was Floyd a 2 times olympic/3 times world gold medalist in 2 different weight classes at 28? NO...

As I already said, just IMHO, it's harder to get olympic gold than being a belt holder in the pros altough we're talking about 2 different approaches of the sport of boxing.

This is just disrespectful to boxing. Beating Martinez means absolutely ****ing nothing. Floyd would have body bagged both Salido and Martinez on the same fu(king night. As would have Castillo, another man I think would beat Loma. Hype....The fu(king downfall of boxing logic. .

Again, did Floyd would have "body bagged" Salido in his second pro fight?

Def not IMO.

If you think Loma is all hype, you're DAMN WRONG, he earned that hype with his amateur pedigree and taking world class fighters in his first pro fights.

Did you just ask if Miguel Cotto and Oscar De la Hoya are technicans?? Are you fu(king ******ed or what? Oh no, actually go on, tell me about how Loma is better than Oscar. That'll be funny.
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******ed? Be polit you internet bully.
I'm actually schooling you with straight facts in your own language (English is my 3rd language).

If you can read properly in your own language you'll find out what I asked.

I asked if they were the best technicians Floyd fought (I think so), OBVIOUSLY they are technicians.

I never said Loma beat Oscar.

I think he's a better technician and a slicker fighter.

Doesn't mean he'll have a better pro career or would have beat Oscar in a fight at 135 where prime Oscar was a beast.

Cotto failed in the ams at the world championship and olympic level.
Amateur boxing is about technics.

IMO Floyd never fought a fighter technically deep as Loma.
He fought better fighters tough, beginning by another southpaw, the Pac man.

The thing is Loma is still getting better.

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Probably PRIME Marquez would beat Loma right now, as I said, Loma has only few fights above 4 rounds.

The thing is Loma is still getting better.

As a poster said, it's ****** to compare a prospect (a big one tough) to a veteran.

[therealpugilist]

Let Lomo live man, Floyd is retired and Lomo is a damn good boxer...get credit where it is due

^^^agreed. A few posters got excited with his performance and brought up he could beat mayweather at 130. I think that is where this stems from.

[therealpugilist]

Chavez was a beast in his prime,,, the guy took unbelievable shots from floyd all night long and kept coming.. Augustus is a tricky cat, and everyone can have an off night..

What about when floyd sprayed genero, manfredy, corrales, famoso, etc

that is a closet classic....people need to watch that fight.....pretty boy floyd was never in a boring fight, even if he dominated. bACK THEN HE CAME FOR YOUR HEAD.

[therealpugilist]

none of those guys are great.

id favor loma over any of those guys.

Loma could outbox corrales but he could also get sparked out. Genaro Hernandez was no pushover and Jesus Chavez was in the upper echelon of 130-135 for a long time. if he thought salido had a motor, add more strength and power then you have chavez.

Loma is a potential ATG imo

[SilverMiles]

Too be fair, he arguably beat Salido in his 2nd Pro fight and Salido is preferably A future Hall of Famer. The only HOF fighter Floyd fight near or at the weight is Castillio and we all know what happened there.

And we'll Martinez isn't the best fighter in the world I feel he's just as good as Angel Manfredy, a guy constantly brought up when talking about Floyd's 130 resume.

Floyd vs Loma at 130 is a 50/50 fight.

[Doctor_Tenma]

Too be fair, he arguably beat Salido in his 2nd Pro fight and Salido is preferably A future Hall of Famer. The only HOF fighter Floyd fight near or at the weight is Castillio and we all know what happened there.

And we'll Martinez isn't the best fighter in the world I feel he's just as good as Angel Manfredy, a guy constantly brought up when talking about Floyd's 130 resume.

Floyd vs Loma at 130 is a 50/50 fight.

But he isn't as good or anywhere near as good as Manfredy, it's best you follow Manfredy's career because that's an ignorant thing to say.

[BillyBoxing]

If Loma is not in his prime at 28 then when the hell is he in is prime?

Prime is not only about age, but more about experience.

Loma is 7 pro fights, so...

I let you conclude by yourself.

[DinoCop]

Floyd not only w'd annihilate him, but w'd also ask "why no more?"