Comments Thread For: Murray Feels Groves Might Be Shot: After I Win, He Will Retire!

[Vinnykin]

Groves has the advantage in nearly every area apart from chin. He has good movement and the jab will keep Murray off him.

Saying that I can never rule out Groves fading in the second half and getting caught....

I think Groves will comfortably win the first 6 rounds, if he doesn't manage to hurt Murray in that time then Murray will come at him in the second half once he tires and his output goes down

good fight

[therealpugilist]

Groves wins....Murray shells himself up and fights in spurts....he literally has lost to every decent fighter he faced.

Groves has the edge in speed and power. Also he is a little more active with his hands. the ear muffs will allow groves to open up

[mlac]

Groves wins....Murray shells himself up and fights in spurts....he literally has lost to every decent fighter he faced.

Groves has the edge in speed and power. Also he is a little more active with his hands. the ear muffs will allow groves to open up

nah. he beat sturm and although i didnt see the martinez fight i heard he was robbed there too.
he also beat abraham by 1 point on my scorecard.

[fredhopple]

Murray and Boy George Groves two average Brit pug losers

Both Murr and Grover are two average boxers who lose well in big fights who are not top contenders. This fight might be a draw with both men claiming the win.

[therealpugilist]

nah. he beat sturm and although i didnt see the martinez fight i heard he was robbed there too.
he also beat abraham by 1 point on my scorecard.

officially he lost and he didnt do himself any favors by not seperating himself. You have to take the title from the champ. He would often wait for Sturm to finish punching then work, not a formula for winning

Murray did better than expected, thats what casual fans do. Exaggerate when the underdog does better than expected. He didnt win that fight either.

He has carried himself well in the ring but he cant seem to get over the hump at the world class stage. He is a european level guy, nothing is wrong with that. Hell challenge for world titles, beat euro level guys but come up short vs top ten guys.

[mlac]

officially he lost and he didnt do himself any favors by not seperating himself. You have to take the title from the champ. He would often wait for Sturm to finish punching then work, not a formula for winning

Murray did better than expected, thats what casual fans do. Exaggerate when the underdog does better than expected. He didnt win that fight either.

He has carried himself well in the ring but he cant seem to get over the hump at the world class stage. He is a european level guy, nothing is wrong with that. Hell challenge for world titles, beat euro level guys but come up short vs top ten guys.

The same logic you are applying works agaisnt you.
Abraham did exactly( even more so ) what you are claiming murray did agaisnt Sturm. yet you still say Abraham won.

Double standards.

[therealpugilist]

The same logic you are applying works agaisnt you.
Abraham did exactly( even more so ) what you are claiming murray did agaisnt Sturm. yet you still say Abraham won.

Double standards.

i wasnt talking about the abraham fight, i'll have to watch it. I dont recall anyone crying foul or saying Murray won.

[mlac]

i wasnt talking about the abraham fight, i'll have to watch it. I dont recall anyone crying foul or saying Murray won.

You claimed he lost every fight to every decent fighter he faced. thats not true.

why even claim it if you haven't even seen the fights lol?

and you are talking about casual fans?

[therealpugilist]

You claimed he lost every fight to every decent fighter he faced. thats not true.

why even claim it if you haven't even seen the fights lol?

and you are talking about casual fans?

I saw highlights....at least I was honest....if it was such a travesty, there would have been an uproar. there wasnt


why are you making a big deal out of Martin friggin Murray...he is a decent fighter, no world beater...he often comes up short. thats life

I didnt see the abraham fight...wasnt interested in watching two fighters take turns coming out of a shell.

[mlac]

I saw highlights....at least I was honest....if it was such a travesty, there would have been an uproar. there wasnt


why are you making a big deal out of Martin friggin Murray...he is a decent fighter, no world beater...he often comes up short. thats life

I didnt see the abraham fight...wasnt interested in watching two fighters take turns coming out of a shell.

I like him, he's not the most skillfull but he has shown great heart (just look at the pummeling he took agaisnt GGG)

He definitely deserves at least ONE win at world title level, whether it be Sturm or abraham. You have to knock them out in germany tho. worst officiating in the world.

He deserves prop's for sure, not ignorant comments about how he always falls short by boxrec internet commentators such as yourself.