If the MW division is not competitive...

[Lester Tutor]

You aren't neutral and fair. You clearly hate GGG. If you didn't hate him you would call him by his right name instead of calling him Lil'G which is meant as an insult and you wouldn't say he is roiding without giving some kind of proof that he is.

Ward's been calling Lil'G since 2015... I didn't make that up. I don't hate Lil'G, it's just that casual boxing fans as well as some purists were gullible in believing propaganda tactics from Pac's legacy and especially the 2010 failed negotiations with Floyd and so forth. Therefore, reading perspectives and seeing numerous videos on YouTube from the same shzz all over again you'd think people would learn about hype...

It's none of my bidne$$ literally what HBO does for Lil'G, but at the same time the over hyped agenda gets old.

[therealpugilist]

then why isn't Canelo fighting MWs at 160? if the MW's are so easy what's the deal?

could it be that they are tough but there's one MW that is making them look weak? perhaps?

CANELO hasnt fought at 160 yet, i dont know whats the hold up...oh well...on to the can Man

HOW can he make them look weak when he has only faced one top ten guy in the current crop of middleweights

let him beat a few more and then we can have a conversation about it.

Lee and Quillin fought to a draw and quillin lost to jacobs

BJS beat eubank and lee

canelo is currently at canelito weight....he isnt the only good fighter above 154....fight someone else in the top ten and move on...he wont....you guys will speak on how feared he is and ducked and then he'll another guy on house arrest or someone we have to google.

[Dean_Razorback]

CANELO hasnt fought at 160 yet, i dont know whats the hold up...oh well...on to the can Man

HOW can he make them look weak when he has only faced one top ten guy in the current crop of middleweights

let him beat a few more and then we can have a conversation about it.

Lee and Quillin fought to a draw and quillin lost to jacobs

BJS beat eubank and lee

canelo is currently at canelito weight....he isnt the only good fighter above 154....fight someone else in the top ten and move on...he wont....you guys will speak on how feared he is and ducked and then he'll another guy on house arrest or someone we have to google.

above 154 lbs is MW, 155 is MW. deal with it

and also, it's ok to pretend that a guy doesn't exist? like they did/do to rigo?

[therealpugilist]

above 154 lbs is MW, 155 is MW. deal with it

and also, it's ok to pretend that a guy doesn't exist? like they did/do to rigo?

so is the monroe and wade level the ceiling....or are the mandatories?

Fan deserve to see better fights...its simple

rigo and GGG are in two totally different positions. Rigo got black balled by a network and promoter after he upset Donaire. Had his belts taken from him, while GGG has 2 out of 3 belts handed to him

whereas GGG is hyped by HBO, and his promoter does a great job regardless of his competition

No one will fight Rigo...its people that will fight GGG, his team just wants to fight them when, and how they want. Pay them what they want.

[boliodogs]

Cotto's value supersedes Golovkin, and Alvarez was the challenger for that Lineal and WBC. To assume Alvarez would have interest at 160 and its protocols are a stretch, and as I told everyone months before the Khan bout was even in circulation, All Star Boxing and Golden Boy were having their court case. Therefore, the profits from the Khan bout provided some income security for at least continuing settlements or still play out the dispute in court regardless. None of that has to do with Gennady Golovkin other than industry and mando from the WBC providing more pressure for GBP agenda. Also, considering its K2 and Loeffler, it's easily assumed he wasn't going to be bullied as a B side, therefore, the bout didn't happen.

Can it still happen? Yes. Given all the circumstances, and perhaps the reason why Abel and Loeffler have stated on RECORD 2017 or 2018 shows the fiasco that GBP and Canelo are having with All Star.

It's unfortunate, but it is what it is, and it has nothing to do with Alvarez' opinion at 160. What statements can anybody find of Alvarez regarding 160? Or is it just about Golovkin? What about the WBO? What about Jacobs?

160 is a mess. Lil'G roiding behind doors and enjoying this funny limelight promoted by HBO is all good.. Alvarez will be around for a while!

Prove his worth? Did adama,monroe,wade,rosado have to prove their worth?

Lara is the wba champ at 154 , he is ready to fight the baddest middleweight on the planet and you screaming he needs to prove his worth.

Smh

You're the one who is screaming. I am just typing. GGG fought Wade and Monroe because they were his mandatory and he had to fight them to keep his titles which is important to him. He doesn't pick his mandatories he just knocks them out. Lara is the WBA 154 pound champ. So the fuc what? He never beat a middleweight and he is nobody at 160. If Lara was GGG's mandatory he would knock him out too. GGG made it crystal clear to anyone but an idiot that his goal is to win all middleweight belts and be the undisputed middleweight champ. KOing Lara does absolutely nothing to further that goal and is just a waste of GGG's time at an age when he doesn't have that much time left. Lara has been calling out GGG for almost two years now while he defends his own 154 pound title against unranked fighters and then struggles with Vanes who is about one tenth as good as GGG. Why hasn't he fought even one fucing middleweight to show he should be the one fighting GGG? If your wonderful Lara had a middleweight belt or was a mandatory challenger GGG would immediately knock him out. Lara is always going to make this big statement and KO his opponent. But he always goes the full 12 rounds in another dull unexciting fight. Lara doesn't even bring good money to the table. You can't give me one good reason why GGG should waste his time fighting Lara because there is no reason he should fight him..

[M Bison]

then why isn't Canelo fighting MWs at 160? if the MW's are so easy what's the deal?

could it be that they are tough but there's one MW that is making them look weak? perhaps?

Floyd Mayweather struggled against B and C level fighters but they pretended that those B and C guys were world class and future Hall Of Fame contenders then he did a Joe Calzaghe and only fought the guys people wanted to see him fight like 6 to 8 years after lol.

It's his nationality that's what the problem is for these people that and some people are just bores they like boring people and they think it makes them better by watching boring fights, nothing worse they're some of the worst fans about bunch of pretend know it all wannabe snobs.

[therealpugilist]

Floyd Mayweather struggled against B and C level fighters but they pretended that those B and C guys were world class and future Hall Of Fame contenders then he did a Joe Calzaghe and only fought the guys people wanted to see him fight like 6 to 8 years after lol.

It's his nationality that's what the problem is for these people that and some people are just bores they like boring people and they think it makes them better by watching boring fights, nothing worse they're some of the worst fans about bunch of pretend know it all wannabe snobs.

you've fallen off on your trolling technique

bring the real freedom back.

mayweather is 49-0 and his only competitive fights were with Maidana, Castillo, Jesus Chavez, augustus did well until stopped he took a beating for it and DLH won like 4 rounds other than that all his wins were dominant.


thats 5 competitive fights in 49 fights....25+ title fights and 20+ champions defeated


GGG is 34-35 with only 3 former champions defeated and 2/3 belts handed to him...yet he is supposed to be top 3 p4p, thats pathetic.....guys who get no love are more proven than him like Tim Bradley, Danny Garcia, Khan, Ward, and several others

his time is running out on a hall of fame career. Hype can only get you so far

[SUBZER0ED]

"Cotto's value supersedes Golovkin.." is straight forward. Cotto's the bigger prize fighter than Golovkin any day, unless you just joined boxing and don't know who he is....

Therefore, after Alvarez paid his due as a challenger for Cotto's belt, who's Lil'G compared to Alvarez' fame. In other words, you know that A and B side people talk about all the time... take the assessment test and figure out what is people talk about. Ditching an opportunity for a mega prize fight at 155 which Alvarez had no interest in fighting Golovkin, yet Golovkin didn't want that money? Don't worry, if it makes you feel any better, Loeffler and Abel whisper into Lil'G's ears on what to think and say while sipping that juice!

It's a straight forward duck, homie & you know it. Everyone who has a name in his division hides behind it to avoid Golovkin (Alvarez, Cotto, Jacobs), while those seeking either fame or a jolt to their floundering career claim to call him out (Lara, Ward), but not seriously. If you're in the division, but quake in your boots to fight the REAL champ of the division at the mandated weight limit, give up your belt & STFU. Cantnelo & Miguella did just that.

[HanzGruber]

What is the point of this thread? Obv canelo doesn't wanna fight golovkin. And water is wet

[SUBZER0ED]

Ward's been calling Lil'G since 2015... I didn't make that up. I don't hate Lil'G, it's just that casual boxing fans as well as some purists were gullible in believing propaganda tactics from Pac's legacy and especially the 2010 failed negotiations with Floyd and so forth. Therefore, reading perspectives and seeing numerous videos on YouTube from the same shzz all over again you'd think people would learn about hype...

It's none of my bidne$$ literally what HBO does for Lil'G, but at the same time the over hyped agenda gets old.

And Golovkin & Loeffler have both called BS on Ward, when they stated he turned down an offer they made him. He has never come out to refute that claim. Haters gonna hate, no matter the facts. Now Ward is supposed to be fighting Kovalev in November. Let's see if that happens then, or if he comes up with a "reason" to put it off until next year.