Fury vs Klitschko 2 - FACE OFF

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Sounds like a bit of a tard to me. Wlad is gonna wax this fool off. One minute fury says he doesn't care if he wins or loses cause he gonna fight again and make more money. Three minutes later he say he hopes wlad wins so he never has to fight again. He know wlad took him lightly and won't make the same mistake again. Fury didn't win the fist fight. Wlad lost it. Wlad wins by six via neck breakage

It was like witnessing Tyson Fury's overall mental state in microcosm. He seemed to be having difficulty holding it together a couple of months ago. Depressive and self loathing. A good training camp will be going some way to dispelling that though.

Maybe Wlad did lose it but only insofar as the style he's adopted over the years; only committing the right when he's sure it will land, grabbing, holding and the leaning, is ineffective against a man with Fury's size and mobility.

I'd like to see Wlad come out aggressive and take risks like he's said he will. I was a fan of his once. He has a chance to partly redeem himself if he does that. Or maybe I'd just rue the fact that he's spent so long not doing it when he could of.

[Fury4daWIN]

Translated: he got intimidated by Fury's unorthodox style.

I loved Fury's line: Clinchko CHOSE to rip off fans.

I was embarrassed for Wlad actually. He's so desperately trying to maintain some illusion of control and it's tying him in knots. Fury ripped him to shreds on his nonsense, and Wlad's only response was to smirk and act smarmy and superior, something which didn't work on Fury in the first fight and seems to have had even less of an effect this time round.

Whatever motivates Wlad to perform at his best is alright by me, though. If he needs to convince himself that he chose to lose the first fight then that will at least give him the choice to win this one this time round. The alternative is to admit he got soundly outclassed, and that's not likely to do his chances any good at all.

[SAN D13GO VILLAN]

Either he's playing mind games or he doesn't seem to interested.... Didn't like that he said that he didn't care if he loses, said it a couple times.

[Adamjr91]

So? Wlad has perfect english, lives in america, has an american wife etc etc. To think that he can't express himself in English is absurd.

Regardless of whether Wlad has an american wife and his lived in an english speaking country for a few years, English isn't his mother tongue so it stands to reason Wladamir would be far more articulate speaking in Ukrainian.

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I was embarrassed for Wlad actually. He's so desperately trying to maintain some illusion of control and it's tying him in knots. Fury ripped him to shreds on his nonsense, and Wlad's only response was to smirk and over enunciate each word like a Bond villain, something which didn't work on Fury in the first fight and seems to have had even less of an effect this time round.

Whatever motivates Wlad to perform at his best is alright by me, though. If he needs to convince himself that he chose to lose the first fight then that will at least give him the choice to win this one this time round. The alternative is to admit he got soundly outclassed, and that's not likely to do his chances any good at all.

When he said he'll reveal at the post fight presser what happened in the first fight to cause his lack of performance it got me thinking that maybe he doesn't actually know. Insofar as this fight will tell him whether it was an off night or whether he just doesn't have it anymore.

For me it was neither of those but Wlads ego in self protection mode isn't likely to acknowledge anything other than those two options. It could be that he's going into this fight searching for answers.

[LacedUp]

Regardless of whether Wlad has an american wife and his lived in an english speaking country for a few years, English isn't his mother tongue so it stands to reason Wladamir would be far more articulate speaking in Ukrainian.

Ok the question wasn't whether he would be expressing himself better in another language, but if he can express himself well in English, which he clearly can.

It had nothing to do with his linguistic capabilities.

[LacedUp]

When he said he'll reveal at the post fight presser what happened in the first fight to cause his lack of performance it got me thinking that maybe he doesn't actually know. Insofar as this fight will tell him whether it was an off night or whether he just doesn't have it anymore.

For me it was neither of those but Wlads ego in self protection mode isn't likely to acknowledge anything other than those two options. It could be that he's going into this fight searching for answers.

If Wlad wins he'll say his right hand was injured in the first fight, which would be pure bs.

[SUBZER0ED]

Fury's unpredictable. That's what gives him the edge.

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If Wlad wins he'll say his right hand was injured in the first fight, which would be pure bs.

Could well do. That'd be preferable to what I was also thinking in that he'd state that he wasn't mentally there due to his wife checking into rehab a month before the fight.

[Combat Talk Radio]

Either he's playing mind games or he doesn't seem to interested.... Didn't like that he said that he didn't care if he loses, said it a couple times.

But you have to respect that from Fury.

It took Roy Jones getting DQ'd against Griffin and losing his "0" before he stopped caring so much about staying undefeated. It wasn't until after that happened that Jones started really making history in a number of ways.

It can be argued that Hamed's whole mental world was built around staying undefeated. Evident by his performance in that next fight.

George Foreman damn near had a mental breakdown after Ali beat him.

Chris Eubank Sr. was never the same fighter after Collins beat him. The Watson fight may have turned him away from being a KO artist, but the Collins loss effectively ruined him.

Fury is mentally where a fighter should be. You go in there and do your job, you get paid. When you've gotten paid enough you walk away. Which means it will take a hungry, aggressive fighter to beat Fury, and I don't know that there is one in that division right now. I'd say Briggs, but his stamina would hold him back.