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Originally posted by FLY TY
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Damn shame that Khan is ranked #1 at WW for doing absolutely nothing. -
I brought up lomachencko to point out from a pro stand point very few fights but he didn't need it because he fought at such a high level as an amateur and in the olympics and turned pro at age 25. Spence based age, his olympic pedigree and the level he fought as an amateur at the highest level in the US system fighting the best amateur fighters here and internationally and his age 26 and he's already had 20 pro fights all of which he won easily IS READY FOR A STEP UP. You in one sentence complain that we should discount his first 19 fights because it was bad competition and then say he needs more fights but refuse to request he take a step up in competition in his next fight? That makes no sense. And how is one fight against Bundu going to drastically change his experience? He is schedule to fight Brooks next so if he's so inexperienced and green right now like you want to pretend will he magically be experienced based on fighting a 41 year old bum Bundu? F outta here.
There is a long list of great fighters who did not have the amateur and olympic background, were younger and needed fewer years as a pro before they stepped up and faced better fighters then Spence. Asking him to fight just 1 top 10 ranked fighter is too much? To pretend that Spence is some raw young fighter is a joke.Comment
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Blame the organizational rankings, he wanted brook not bundu. He called him out, he called out a lot of higher guys but his risk/reward wasn't good and until he get a belt any way he can its going to stay that way. The IBF is pretty clear about mandatory fights so unless the winner of vargas-brook drops it or fights bradley he's next.Comment
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Of course the IBF is at blame as well how else do you explain a bum like Bundu even getting a high enough ranking to get a title eliminator fight in the first place? But crooked organizations giving dubious rankings is nothing new. And my point is how the hell do you think Spence got that number 2 ranking for the IBF? He's been fighting specific fights to crawl up their rankings and participating in IBF eliminators for his last 3 fights. Haymon has been targeting the IBF belt. My question is why is he trying to get a mando for IBF and not the WBA and WBC belts that have been under Haymon's control for years? Let's pretend that Spence needs to be mando to get a title shot which is pure BS if Haymon wants Spence could have a shot at either title with Haymon's blessings. But if you think nobody will fight him and he has to become a mando why not make the fights to crawl up the WBC or WBA rankings and get a shot at those belts? Instead Haymon sent him down a road to become mando for the IBF belt that is NOT owned by a Haymon fighter instead. In the meantime Danny, Thurman, Spence all feed on each other's left overs and don't have to fight each other.Originally posted by FLY TY View Post
IBF and the rest are all crooks we get that but I thought Haymon having all these fighters in house meant it would be easier for them to fight one another? Instead they aren't fighting and Haymon is steering them away from each other. Already talks of Danny fighting Berto next. And Spence against Bundu. Why not they fight each other?Comment
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Haymon has too many guys who are all not fighting each other instead are passing around their left overs. Instead of Spence fighting Thurman/Porter (winner or loser) he is going to fight Thurmans left overs in Bundu? Instead of fighting Khan he fights Khan's left over in Algieri. Instead of Thurman fighting Khan last year Thurman fights Khan's left over in Collazo. Instead of Danny fighting Thurman/Porter he fights Porters left over in Paulie and Thurman's left overs in Guerrero. Instead of Broner fighting Danny he fights Danny's leftovers in Theophane.
Nobody else see's a problem with all these guys at the same weight and instead of fighting each other they just keep fighting the same bums they each beat the year before in noncompetitive fights?Comment
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Dude.....he's fighting Bundu because that Russian trash ducked and ran away.Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
Stop using that as an excuse to rant on Al Haymon.Comment
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This is a good fight. Bundu isn't a push over at all. I expect Spence to win, however. Hopefully he gets the winner of Vargas-Brook next.Comment
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What's the point of these eliminators when everyone is allowed to avoid them without getting penalized? Are you telling me Peterson said no to this fight? Can someone confirm this?Comment
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They keep moving the goal posts on Spence.Originally posted by JQside View Post
Algeri was supposed to be the mando to get to brook....then they put another mando in with the Russian...he punked-out...and now it's Bundu..who is tougher than Algeri and the Russian.
Brook might tuck tail and run to 154.Comment
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Yes I agree I don't buy the injury either the Russian pulled out. BUT why was he going to fight him in the first place? Why jump through hoops for IBF anyway when you are signed with the big dog Haymon? It's not necessary..if haymon wanted to make the fights. You would not rather see Spence fight Thurman, Porter, Danny, Khan, Broner, Peterson ect? So if he has so many great fights in house and there are 2 belts in house. Why the phuk is he wasting his time with a IBF title eliminator? Haymon is the one who pulls the strings and he maps out the fights for all these guys so why are all these guys in the same division not fighting and instead are just sharing left overs and sent to target different belts? While guys who took bad loses and aren't on any ESPN, RING or independent top 10 rankings just keep getting passed around like a used h0e for Haymon fighters rather then guys just fighting each other.Originally posted by Kigali View PostLast edited by bigdunny1; 06-09-2016, 03:00 PM.Comment
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