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  • #41
    Vitali still living off being competitive before getting stopped by past prime Lewis.

    If prime Foreman fought that Lewis he'd stop him early.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by BennyST View Post
      Yeah, it's called being in shape Jugs. I know, it's a strange concept from an old school bygone era compared to heavies today, but funnily enough, it actually helped fighters.

      You know what's really funny Jugs? Foreman, in his prime, weighed around 220. When he made his comeback, as a more out of shape, fat old man essentially, he weighed in around the 250 mark like most of today's guys. He didn't get better with that extra fat around his weight.

      I know it's difficult to understand such a foreign concept and you seem to have trouble wrapping your mind around most things, but being in shape is actually a big help.

      They were the same size in nearly every way. Both 6'4" with Foreman having a longer reach. The difference is that Foreman was in proper shape for a pro boxer. Sanders rarely was.

      How about I put it a different way that might be easier for you to grasp. Sanders was probably at his best when he fought Wladimir right? Would you say so? Looked his sharpest, looked his fastest etc etc. Well guess what? He weighed just over 220 pounds. Around the same as Foreman in his prime. What did that get him? Well, it got him a KO win over a Klitschko for a world title.

      What's also interesting is that he came in against Vitali closer to 240, and he looked slower, less sharp and all around not as good. Funny that.

      As for the rest of your post, well, I don't think you've ever even watched a Vitali fight if you think he didnt get hit. He was easy to hit. He had poor fundamentals, lacked defense, pulled and leaned straight back and was about as awkward a fighter as there was. His skill was in a good chin, his awkwardness, his size and being in shape unlike the trash he fought for the large majority of his career.
      Foreman at 250 plus in the 90's was INDEED better in everyway ! Just look at what Dundee said about how come back Foreman would have given Ali a better fight. In absolutely NO way would the sloppier ,less physically Foreman of the 70's survive against the 90's version of himself who took a MUCH better punch and was smarter anybody who truly studies boxing would blatantly see that .

      Where is Vitali better than Foreman ?

      Better technique in throwing straight punches
      Better speed
      Better footwork
      Better stamina
      Better chin
      Better ring generalship
      Better at avoiding punches
      Better physical attributes and uses it to fullest extent


      Foreman has the slight better jab ,whether he would out jab Vitali is debatable !

      Foreman has more power but its not a significant differance

      Foreman like it or not is NO Lewis ,so not sure why you guys try and use that as a gauge when i can use several fights on ANY version of Foreman to show how Vitali would EASILY be favored in this match up !

      Lewis is one of the hardest hitting HW 's of all time at 6'5 83 inch reach or so you want me to believe the LESS skilled Foreman out does Vitali who up until Lewis barely lost a single round and improved his craft after Lewis as well. You are trying to sell me smaller slower Foreman of the 70's beats Vitali but im not that gullible i actually know boxing !

      Everything you said that Vitali was bad at is EXACTLY how Ali fought ,so you indirectly just shot your own argument to pieces when describing Vitalis awkward style ,the differance is 6'7 with around 30 more pounds compared to 6'3 210/220 that Ali was and if you think Vitali was EASY to hit unlike Foreman it is not me who is not watching the fights !


      You can play the "I dont know boxing "game here with me if you wish ...GOOD LUCK!
      Last edited by juggernaut666; 06-07-2016, 06:21 AM.
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      • #43
        Originally posted by juggernaut666 View Post
        Foreman at 250 plus in the 90's was INDEED better in everyway ! Just look at what Dundee said about how come back Foreman would have given Ali a better fight. In absolutely NO way would the sloppier ,less physically Foreman of the 70's survive against the 90's version of himself who took a MUCH better punch and was smarter anybody who truly studies boxing would blatantly see that .

        Where is Vitali better than Foreman ?

        Better technique in throwing straight punches
        Better speed
        Better footwork
        Better stamina
        Better chin
        Better ring generalship
        Better at avoiding punches
        Better physical attributes and uses it to fullest extent


        Foreman has the slight better jab ,whether he would out jab Vitali is debatable !

        Foreman has more power but its not a significant differance

        Foreman like it or not is NO Lewis ,so not sure why you guys try and use that as a gauge when i can use several fights on ANY version of Foreman to show how Vitali would EASILY be favored in this match up !

        Lewis is one of the hardest hitting HW 's of all time at 6'5 83 inch reach or so you want me to believe the LESS skilled Foreman out does Vitali who up until Lewis barely lost a single round and improved his craft after Lewis as well. You are trying to sell me smaller slower Foreman of the 70's beats Vitali but im not that gullible i actually know boxing !

        Everything you said that Vitali was bad at is EXACTLY how Ali fought ,so you indirectly just shot your own argument to pieces when describing Vitalis awkward style ,the differance is 6'7 with around 30 more pounds compared to 6'3 210/220 that Ali was and if you think Vitali was EASY to hit unlike Foreman it is not me who is not watching the fights !


        You can play the "I dont know boxing "game here with me if you wish ...GOOD LUCK!
        Man I don't care who you think wins but you're loony if you don't think there was a significant difference in power between any version of foreman and Vitali Klitschko.

        Guys like Danny Williams and Sosnowski would not see the 4th round against an Old Foreman, let alone make it to the 8th and 10th rounds respectively. Danny Williams probably wouldn't get up from the first right hand he took from a Young Foreman. If anything is certain in this matchup, its that George punches much harder. Vitali doesn't even hit nearly as hard as baby bro Wlad.

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        • #44
          Let's all be honest. Regarding power, no heavyweight in history is on the same level as George Foreman. And regarding chin, then I don't see Vitali or George knocking each other out, no matter who has the better chin. Both are very powerful and both got iron chins, but they would both have to be very careful in this fight, so I see it turning out to be a decision.

          Vitali is taller and faster and he got better skills, which really is quite obvious. So I see him taking a decision. It's also a matter of stylistic matchup.

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          • #45
            70's Foreman by late knockout, but Vitali might have had a puncher's chance.

            Vitali decisions 90's Foreman.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by Paulie Walnuts View Post
              Vitali still living off being competitive before getting stopped by past prime Lewis.

              If prime Foreman fought that Lewis he'd stop him early.
              Is there any shame in getting stopped by Lennox Lewis? Cuts happen and Vitali received a brutal cut from a perfect punch from who is likely the best heavyweight ever, even if past it and out of shape. Vitali simply wasn't ready for that level yet, as his defense wasn't good enough. He concentrated too much on attacking. But we should never use that fight to talk badly about Vitali. Instead, we should use it to talk good about Lewis.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by NaijaD View Post
                Man I don't care who you think wins but you're loony if you don't think there was a significant difference in power between any version of foreman and Vitali Klitschko.

                Guys like Danny Williams and Sosnowski would not see the 4th round against an Old Foreman, let alone make it to the 8th and 10th rounds respectively. Danny Williams probably wouldn't get up from the first right hand he took from a Young Foreman. If anything is certain in this matchup, its that George punches much harder. Vitali doesn't even hit nearly as hard as baby bro Wlad.
                Briggs fought both and said Vitali hits harder!IM looney toons in saying a 250 pounder who k.od MUCH bigger guys than Foreman ever did is on the same power level?

                Foremans k.o percentage with guys over 220 is 40/45 % !

                Vitali rarely even fought anyone who were 220!

                Anybody who actually reads my previous comment and still thinks Foreman is the better fighter is LOONEY TOONS!
                Last edited by juggernaut666; 06-07-2016, 12:13 PM.
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                • #48
                  Originally posted by muslimer12 View Post
                  LMAO!!!! from any of us Evander knew the most, he actually got hit by both guys looool please just stop. I say Foreman hit harder cuz a person who has been hit by both of them said foreman hit harder than either lennox or tyson. And foreman has KOd more high profile fighters. You cant say Lennox hit harder just cuz you feel like he does. Facts are facts. Foreman use to leave dents in punching bags and his trainer would literaly fall backwards trying to hold the punching bag.
                  Briggs said that Vitali hit harder than Foreman. You believe him too?

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by WTF Huck! View Post
                    Briggs said that Vitali hit harder than Foreman. You believe him too?
                    Briggs fought a near 50 year old foreman

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by muslimer12 View Post
                      Briggs fought a near 50 year old foreman
                      And Evander fought a Foreman who never knocked him down.

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