George Foreman vs. Vitali Klitschko

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  • CatchAndShoot
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    #31
    Originally posted by juggernaut666
    lol...No just ...NO....you haven't the slightest what you are looking at. stop watching re runs and start watching why certain guys are just harder to deal with!
    LMAO, Vitali was in a slug fest with Corrie Sanders for goodness sakes. Big George would wreck him.

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    • sleazyfellow
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      #32
      Vitali has a good chin I give him that but he has a tendency to brawl and that's a no no against foreman, especially prime foreman who would maul him. He'd have a better shot against comeback foreman though, who still hit very hard but was way slower.

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        #33
        Originally posted by CatchAndShoot
        LMAO, Vitali was in a slug fest with Corrie Sanders for goodness sakes. Big George would wreck him.
        Sanders was a 230/240 Southpaw...Foreman was a 220 guy who couldn't even handle a clinching sub 200 pounder Jimmy young...would you like me to actually break this down? Vitali RARLEY got hit..Foreman had NO defense...DO the math!
        Last edited by juggernaut666; 06-06-2016, 10:27 PM.

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          #34
          Originally posted by juggernaut666
          Sanders was a 240 Southpaw...Foreman was a 220 guy who couldn't even handle a clinching sub 200 pounder Jimmy young...would you like me to actually break this down? Vitali RARLEY got hit..Foreman had NO defense...DO the math!
          Foreman's defense was his offense, and Vitali was always prone to get into slug fests, and his big body was always making him gas. Big George would've put it on him. You know it, I know it, we all know it.

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            #35
            Originally posted by CatchAndShoot
            Foreman's defense was his offense, and Vitali was always prone to get into slug fests, and his big body was always making him gas. Big George would've put it on him. You know it, I know it, we all know it.
            Exactly therefor no offense and hes dead in the water...you might want to check out him getting saved by the bell vs Lyle who was NOT a Klitchko in any way shape or literally form! Vitali gassed? Surley you are a JOKER when foreman also was known for POOR stamina after certain rounds when fighters lasted?

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              #36
              Originally posted by juggernaut666
              Exactly therefor no offense and hes dead in the water...you might want to check out him getting saved by the bell vs Lyle who was NOT a Klitchko in any way shape or literally form! Vitali gassed? Surley you are a JOKER when foreman also was known for POOR stamina after certain rounds when fighters lasted?

              Lyle had serious power, and a dog in the ring. In the HW division, anyone could win on any given night. Foreman came out on top, and showed how much heart, and toughness he had. Vitali didn't have the type of power Lyle had, and if he got into with Big George, he'd get clobbered. You keep bringing up his size, but that plays into George's favor.

              If Vitali took even 25-30% of the shots that Ali took, then he's smoked turkey.

              And change your username. You some type of Devil worshiper? The hell's wrong with you?

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                #37
                Originally posted by CatchAndShoot
                Lyle had serious power, and a dog in the ring. In the HW division, anyone could win on any given night. Foreman came out on top, and showed how much heart, and toughness he had. Vitali didn't have the type of power Lyle had, and if he got into with Big George, he'd get clobbered. You keep bringing up his size, but that plays into George's favor.

                If Vitali took even 25-30% of the shots that Ali took, then he's smoked turkey.
                vitali is a world class boxer with power...lyle learned to box in prison and was raw not refined! yopu are now using HEART as a skill...it isn't and the hard truth is Vitali would beat Lyle and 70's foreman in the same night...Lyle couldn't and wouldn't sustain the power,and a quick Cooney like k.o from a 6'6 plus guy waiting to happen and Foreman would last until he tired and the shot Vitali hit lewis with was by far harder than anything a 70's foreman would have ever or did taste. Its not about taking shots its about avoiding them...boxing 101.


                To all those who actually think foreman is favored in this match up,well...sorry back to the drawing board ...study boxing instead of watching old clips!
                Last edited by juggernaut666; 06-06-2016, 10:42 PM.

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                • BennyST
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                  #38
                  Wow, what's with people's memories?

                  I'm seeing lots of stuff about Vitali wins with his 'skills' while Foreman could only win via KO.

                  What were these skills that were better than Foreman's? Foreman had a jab that was literally ten times better than Vitali's and which would be very difficult for Vitali to deal with.

                  Vitali wasn't a guy who dealt in skill and it wouldn't be a skilled boxer vs brawler here. I think people are confusing style with skill. Vitali wasn't more skilled, he just had a more conventional, albeit very awkward, style.

                  We saw Vitali in against fat, old Lewis who was probably closer to prime Foreman, in the way Lewis chose to fight that night, than anyone else Vitali fought.

                  Bad match up for VK in my opinion. He's an awkward, brawler essentially. Against Foreman, he would play into all of Foreman's strengths. He comes forward and fights very straight on. Against Foreman, that type of fight nearly always got you KTFO.

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                    #39
                    Wrong forum section. Mods, move this to Boxing History...
                    Better yet, fantasy fights

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                    • BennyST
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by juggernaut666
                      Sanders was a 240 Southpaw...Foreman was a 220 guy who couldn't even handle a clinching sub 200 pounder Jimmy young...would you like me to actually break this down? Vitali RARLEY got hit..Foreman had NO defense...DO the math!
                      Yeah, it's called being in shape Jugs. I know, it's a strange concept from an old school bygone era compared to heavies today, but funnily enough, it actually helped fighters.

                      You know what's really funny Jugs? Foreman, in his prime, weighed around 220. When he made his comeback, as a more out of shape, fat old man essentially, he weighed in around the 250 mark like most of today's guys. He didn't get better with that extra fat around his weight.

                      I know it's difficult to understand such a foreign concept and you seem to have trouble wrapping your mind around most things, but being in shape is actually a big help.

                      They were the same size in nearly every way. Both 6'4" with Foreman having a longer reach. The difference is that Foreman was in proper shape for a pro boxer. Sanders rarely was.

                      How about I put it a different way that might be easier for you to grasp. Sanders was probably at his best when he fought Wladimir right? Would you say so? Looked his sharpest, looked his fastest etc etc. Well guess what? He weighed just over 220 pounds. Around the same as Foreman in his prime. What did that get him? Well, it got him a KO win over a Klitschko for a world title.

                      What's also interesting is that he came in against Vitali closer to 240, and he looked slower, less sharp and all around not as good. Funny that.

                      As for the rest of your post, well, I don't think you've ever even watched a Vitali fight if you think he didnt get hit. He was easy to hit. He had poor fundamentals, lacked defense, pulled and leaned straight back and was about as awkward a fighter as there was. His skill was in a good chin, his awkwardness, his size and being in shape unlike the trash he fought for the large majority of his career.
                      Last edited by BennyST; 06-07-2016, 04:36 AM.

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