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  • #51
    He isn't really smaller than GGG, he can just make 155 easily because he's young, but he rehydrates bigger than GGG. He knows even if GGG is a similar size, at 34 he would kill himself making 155.

    He's basically just following suit of being the A-side. De La Hoya used his A-side status meaning Floyd had to accept any De La Hoya demand. Then when Floyd become the A-side, he just did what De La Hoya did to him. So when Canelo become the A-side, he's just doing what Floyd did to him. It's not just Canelo or those guys. Manny did it too, managed to get the likes of Cotto to accept the weight demands and other things.

    That's just modern day boxing for you. Canelo isn't the only one. But basically, they're similar size, he can just use his age as an advantage to drain GGG to the point where even after rehydration, GGG would be feeling the effects of it.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by Freedom2016 View Post
      The question lingers why did he fight as many years at middleweight then?
      It took a public shaming for him to MAYBE be set to finally acknowledge that If he is a Jr Middleweight that he needs to weigh 154lbs.
      155-160 is middleweight.

      Maximum weight of 155 is not middleweight. There is a clear and significant difference that some are trying to ignore.

      He's comfortably making 155 and will comfortably make 154. The public 'shaming him' is irrelevant, people on the internet give their opinions entirely too much value. You honestly think big name fighters care about random people on Twitter and the likes?

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      • #53
        Hopkins best win? Trinidad & Oscar both a prime WW.

        Haglers best win? Duran a prime LW.

        Monzons best wins? Jose Napoles & Emile Griffith. Nino Benvenuti was a natural MW though but that is still two of his best 3 wins that were WW's.

        Nothing new here if GGG was to fight the likes of Canelo or Lara.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by Godsfly View Post
          race baiters, attention seekers, trolls. please stay out of thread.


          is canelo really a middleweight? I say no. for me i look at things logically (thats why posters hate me) but canelo has never fought at 160. why should he go up to 160 and fight golovkin, a guy thats having it his way by asking a smaller fighter to move up? why should golovkin have it his way? shouldn't they meet at like 155 or 57.


          that would be fair with no belts on the line (:
          Save yourself some time & admit you know he would get beat. The size issue is almost negligible in this case..

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          • #55
            Originally posted by gmc_rfc_06 View Post


            Once again, we have posters imposing their own different rules for different fighters.

            Crawford, Maidana, Angulo, Khan, Trout, Charlo, etc...can all gain 15-20lbs before the fight and its perfectly normal. Canelo does the same and he's too big.

            It's not new, Canelo has been about the most under valued top fighter in boxing all the way back before the Trout fight.
            Which one of the named fighters is fighting at his own made up weight class?? Oh that's right none. See you don't get it. It's the fact that Can'tNelo made up his own weight class. It has nothing to do with fight night weight. Almost all fighters drain themselves to make a certain weight then blow up in weight that's not the issue the issue is he doesn't have the balls to fight at the MW limit and ******s are saying he isn't a MW. Yet he can't make 154. That last pound is a big deal. If Can'tNelo was fighting at 154 and ballooning up to 175 then fawk it he is making the sacrifice and making weight. But he isn't he is hiding at 155. If GGG wasn't at MW I guarantee you Can'tNelo would be at 160 already

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            • #56
              Canelo is a few pounds bigger than GGG.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by gmc_rfc_06 View Post
                155-160 is middleweight.

                Maximum weight of 155 is not middleweight. There is a clear and significant difference that some are trying to ignore.

                He's comfortably making 155 and will comfortably make 154. The public 'shaming him' is irrelevant, people on the internet give their opinions entirely too much value. You honestly think big name fighters care about random people on Twitter and the likes?
                For someone's reputation, I would definitely think someone would care, Canelo carries a heavy burden of being a Mexican superstar and as right now he failed his countrymen hence why he is getting stick not off his own people and other avid boxing fans.

                He's already had gift decisions in his career and as soon as he faces the possibility of having a big unification fight he brings up what has GGG done to deserve it yet ironically he will now no doubt go down to 154lbs and fight smaller guys who he will outweigh by a good bit and guys who don't have a bigger name and fanbase than Golovkin he looks like a raging hypocrite.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by Freedom2016 View Post
                  For someone's reputation, I would definitely think someone would care, Canelo carries a heavy burden of being a Mexican superstar and as right now he failed his countrymen hence why he is getting stick not off his own people and other avid boxing fans.

                  He's already had gift decisions in his career and as soon as he faces the possibility of having a big unification fight he brings up what has GGG done to deserve it yet ironically he will now no doubt go down to 154lbs and fight smaller guys who he will outweigh by a good bit and guys who don't have a bigger name and fanbase than Golovkin he looks like a raging hypocrite.
                  He'll go to 154 and fight guys his own size; Andrade, Charlo, Smith, etc....all are the same size as Canelo. As were Trout, Angulo, Kirkland.

                  Golovkin said he'd fight at 168 for Chavez and Froch, but not Ward. Canelo had consistently said he's not fighting at 160 for anybody...yet you have a problem with the latter.
                  Last edited by gmc_rfc_06; 06-04-2016, 09:07 AM.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Chuckguy View Post
                    Which one of the named fighters is fighting at his own made up weight class?? Oh that's right none. See you don't get it. It's the fact that Can'tNelo made up his own weight class. It has nothing to do with fight night weight. Almost all fighters drain themselves to make a certain weight then blow up in weight that's not the issue the issue is he doesn't have the balls to fight at the MW limit and ******s are saying he isn't a MW. Yet he can't make 154. That last pound is a big deal. If Can'tNelo was fighting at 154 and ballooning up to 175 then fawk it he is making the sacrifice and making weight. But he isn't he is hiding at 155. If GGG wasn't at MW I guarantee you Can'tNelo would be at 160 already
                    By all accounts he's set to return to 154.

                    Let's see if your position of 'fawk it he is making the sacrifice and making weight' remains the same when that is the case.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by gmc_rfc_06 View Post
                      He'll go to 154 and fight guys his own size; Andrade, Charlo, Smith, etc....all are the same size as Canelo. As were Trout, Angulo, Kirkland.

                      Golovkin said he'd fight at 168 for Chavez and Froch, but not Ward. Canelo had consistently said he's not fighting at 160 for anybody...yet you have a problem with the latter.
                      You fight the best of your own weight division simple as that the situations aren't in comparison, Canelo is a middleweight and he has held middleweight gold how can you blame GGG for wanting to only come up to 168 for the two biggest draws of the division?
                      People move up for lucrative fights Froch and Chavez are both that as is GGG vs Canelo a lucrative fight but its a fight that requires NEITHER person to move up.

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