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  • #31
    Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
    Up until 5 years ago Canelo was a welterweight. In his teens fought at 140. GGG as amateur in his teens fought at 154 and when he turned 20 fought at 160 as an amateur and has literally been a middleweight ever since. Canelo has never weighed more then 155 and in their last 2 fights GGG weighed more at his 30 day weigh in then Canelo did.

    Fact is Canelo has never weighed 160 or fought a 160lb fighter and doesn't have to do so just because GGG the B side asks him to. Now that there is no belt involved it's just a normal fight between 2 fighters one has refused to venture above or below 160 where all the better fighters and bigger paydays are. The other has moved up and down in weight to make big fights and is now the biggest draw in boxing. Why does Canelo need to move to 160 just because GGG says so? The fight will be on Canelo's terms and once GGG get's that he will move down in weight just like he said he would for Floyd and Manny. Or he can keep fighting bums like Wade.
    You are right that Can'tNelo hasn't fought at 160 but hat is because he chooses to bully smaller guys like khan. Can'tNelo is a MW but he is hiding at his own created weight.
    Fact is Can'tNelo fan boys accept his BS a side weight but crucify GGG for asking for a CW. If they were true fans they would sh it on both BS weights as I did. But as usual on boxing scene you can't speak facts to fanboys from any boxer

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    • #32


      LOL

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      • #33
        No he isnt a MW, more like a SMW possibly even LHW.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Chuckguy View Post
          You are right that Can'tNelo hasn't fought at 160 but hat is because he chooses to bully smaller guys like khan. Can'tNelo is a MW but he is hiding at his own created weight.
          Fact is Can'tNelo fan boys accept his BS a side weight but crucify GGG for asking for a CW. If they were true fans they would sh it on both BS weights as I did. But as usual on boxing scene you can't speak facts to fanboys from any boxer
          Angulo, Lara, Trout, Kirkland were not smaller fighters matter fact all have fought at higher weights then Canelo has ever fought. At whatever age you want to look at GGG was bigger then Canelo at that age. At each of their last fight GGG was heavier then canelo in their 30 day weigh in. Last year Canelo weighed half a pound over the 154 limit yet idiots think he can't still make 154 and is draining himself to make 155? He makes 155 easy. He's looked fresh in each of his last 3 weighins if he had to drain that last pound for a title fight he could. Trout last 3 fights before charlo were at 156 or 157. since he was not belt holder and is with haymon so he doesn't need any title eliminator to get a title shot. Trout went 2 years without actually weighing 154 yet nobody is dumb enough to call him a middleweight and as soon as he needed to make 154 for a title fight he did.

          To call Canelo a middleweight is just ****** as well. To say he's bigger then GGG is even dumber. And if you are saying he's bigger then GGG then if canelo can make 155 why can't the "smaller" GGG do it as well? Especially since he said he can do it "easily" when he begged to fight Manny and Floyd at 154? And if you think canelo is struggling to make 155 then wouldn't that be GGG advantage to fight at 155 and make canelo drained? So then why doesn't GGG do it?

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          • #35
            Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
            Angulo, Lara, Trout, Kirkland were not smaller fighters matter fact all have fought at higher weights then Canelo has ever fought. At whatever age you want to look at GGG was bigger then Canelo at that age. At each of their last fight GGG was heavier then canelo in their 30 day weigh in. Last year Canelo weighed half a pound over the 154 limit yet idiots think he can't still make 154 and is draining himself to make 155? He makes 155 easy. He's looked fresh in each of his last 3 weighins if he had to drain that last pound for a title fight he could. Trout last 3 fights before charlo were at 156 or 157. since he was not belt holder and is with haymon so he doesn't need any title eliminator to get a title shot. Trout went 2 years without actually weighing 154 yet nobody is dumb enough to call him a middleweight and as soon as he needed to make 154 for a title fight he did.

            To call Canelo a middleweight is just ****** as well. To say he's bigger then GGG is even dumber. And if you are saying he's bigger then GGG then if canelo can make 155 why can't the "smaller" GGG do it as well? Especially since he said he can do it "easily" when he begged to fight Manny and Floyd at 154? And if you think canelo is struggling to make 155 then wouldn't that be GGG advantage to fight at 155 and make canelo drained? So then why doesn't GGG do it?

            You are a delusional fan boy thinking a guy that makes 160 will have an advantage having to lose 5 more pounds! ****** Can'tNelo fans right here. No one said Can'tNelo is bigger than GGG but they are pretty close and he easily outweighs him. Can'tNelo is a poosie who is scared to fight at the MW limit. And dumbaz he is a MW! MW is 154.01 pounds-160. What weight does Can'tNelo fight? Oh that's right 155 so he is a MW you fawking ******! He just has chosen not to fight at the MW limit.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Chuckguy View Post
              You are a delusional fan boy thinking a guy that makes 160 will have an advantage having to lose 5 more pounds! ****** Can'tNelo fans right here. No one said Can'tNelo is bigger than GGG but they are pretty close and he easily outweighs him. Can'tNelo is a poosie who is scared to fight at the MW limit. And dumbaz he is a MW! MW is 154.01 pounds-160. What weight does Can'tNelo fight? Oh that's right 155 so he is a MW you fawking ******! He just has chosen not to fight at the MW limit.
              Literally multiple idiot ggg fan boys in this same thread said he is bigger then ggg. That's simply not true and I never said he is massively smaller then ggg but he is smaller and he is the bigger star bigger draw. So to make up the difference ggg will have to come down. Canelo, trout and tons of fighters fight above their weight limit for non title fights. Hell Spence fought at 156 and a half just last sept. Is he a middleweight you moron? No he just didn't care about making weight and his last 2 fights he cut weight to get to 147 as part of an eliminator to get number 1 contender ranking for a belt. Canelo is bigger then a belt or ranking so has no need to cut weight to 154. When and if he needs another belt he will do it. Just like trout did and like Spence (who in 20 pro fights has technically fought above 147 in 13 of his 20 fights) and hundreds of other boxers who fight a couple pounds above weight for non title fights. That don't make them middleweights.

              And GGG is a poosie who refuses to go up or down from 160 to face better fighters would rather fight bums like wade instead of make more money and more glory.
              Last edited by bigdunny1; 06-04-2016, 02:43 AM.

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              • #37
                Do all of these alts emerge from the same tribe/hood?

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
                  Literally multiple idiot ggg fan boys in this same thread said he is bigger then ggg. That's simply not true and I never said he is massively smaller then ggg but he is smaller and he is the bigger star bigger draw. So to make up the difference ggg will have to come down. Canelo, trout and tons of fighters fight above their weight limit for non title fights. Hell Spence fought at 156 and a half just last sept. Is he a middleweight you moron? No he just didn't care about making weight and his last 2 fights he cut weight to get to 147 as part of an eliminator to get number 1 contender ranking for a belt. Canelo is bigger then a belt or ranking so has no need to cut weight to 154. When and if he needs another belt he will do it. Just like trout did and like Spence (who in 20 pro fights has technically fought above 147 in 13 of his 20 fights) and hundreds of other boxers who fight a couple pounds above weight for non title fights. That don't make them middleweights.

                  And GGG is a poosie who refuses to go up or down from 160 to face better fighters would rather fight bums like wade instead of make more money and more glory.
                  The last time that Canelo signed to fight at 154, he missed weight and had to pay Lara 100k in compensation

                  He is a MW that is being protected against 160 lbers by GBP

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Tomjas View Post
                    The last time that Canelo signed to fight at 154, he missed weight and had to pay Lara 100k in compensation

                    He is a MW that is being protected against 160 lbers by GBP
                    Lie lara fight was negotiated at 155 from day one he didn't miss weight. You thinking about angulo fight which was his first fight back in a non title fight where he didn't care about making weight. Lemiuex blew off his weight in his come back fight early this year does that mean he's not a middleweight? No it means he don't care about weight in non title fights he's fought a few pounds over 160 tons of times but if he has to he will make 160 for a title. Canelo made weight for all title defenses at 154. Just like trout made weight for his title defenses and before Charlo spent 2 years fighting higher then canelo at 156 and 157 in NON TITLE fights then cut weight when he got his title shot a few weeks ago. Trout ain't no middleweight either and actually walks around heavier then canelo between fights.

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                    • #40
                      He rehydrates up to 175-180.

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