Loeffler never offered Ward 164, but..........

[kafkod]

Please, go troll somewhere else you ****** maggot. Stop lying, none of us knew how much the fight would gross when the $40 mil, no ppv offer was made. I also have never said GGG ducked ward.

stop over exaggerating the difference between GGG and ward. GGG fills more seat in part because his ticket prices are so low. thats why he sells out arenas but his ppv flopped. people don't mind paying $10-30 but didn't want to pay $50.

It was closer to 43% more than he had ever made -$40 mil (no ppv) vs $28 mil (with bulk of ppv). when BJS turned down his biggest payday ever from GGG, you killed BJS and called him a duck. yet you gave manny a pass?

The bottom line is GGG felt he could go to 168 for easy wins but 164 for tougher fights with ward and rodriguez. This is something you have always criticized yet didn't when GGG did it.

Despite me not being a GGG fan, I posted You can't fault GGG in this instance IMO. If I am biased, its toward the a side.

Golovkin was ready to fight Froch, in the Uk, at 168lbs, so obviously it isn't all about risk. Reward comes into the equation too.

And btw, a few days ago you accused me of continually bringing the question of racial bias into discussions about Golovkin, and I asked you to quote the comment, or comments, you were talking about.

You didn't respond. I presume that was because you couldn't find any comments from me of that kind. Correct?

[Motorcity Cobra]

Golovkin was ready to fight Froch, in the Uk, at 168lbs, so obviously it isn't all about risk. Reward comes into the equation too.

And btw, a few days ago you accused me of continually bringing the question of racial bias into discussions about Golovkin, and I asked you to quote the comment, or comments, you were talking about.

You didn't respond. I presume that was because you couldn't find any comments from me of that kind. Correct?

Can we please keep race out of this. Thanks.

[kafkod]

Can we please keep race out of this. Thanks.

Read my post. I'm not bringing race into it. I never bring race into discussions, and if somebody accuses me of doing that, I'm going to challenge them.

[Motorcity Cobra]

Read my post. I'm not bringing race into it. I never bring race into discussions, and if somebody accuses me of doing that, I'm going to challenge them.

OK I understand that but he didn't say that to you here & that post you quoted wasn't a response to you. I'm just trying to not have this turn into a thread about racism

[kafkod]

OK I understand that but he didn't say that to you here & that post you quoted wasn't a response to you. I'm just trying to not have this turn into a thread about racism

Ok mate, no problem.