Comments Thread For: Roach: I'd Still Like Mayweather To Face a 'Healthy' Manny Pacquiao

[Sledgeweather17]

You'd have to create a time machine to go back to 2009-2011, otherwise, no point. Floyd waited until Pacquiao went thru wars and got washed up like the coward that he is.

Have you idiots ever thought that it might be the other way around? I mean, isn't it ironic that the fight was made after Mayweather began to visibly slip in his two Maidana fights?

Isn't it ironic that Mayweather is actually two whole years older than Pacquiao?

Or how about that fact that Pacquiao's trainer Feddie Roach actually admitted live on tv that they were the ones at fault for the fight being delayed?

Or do you guys just get off on creating these alternate realities in your minds?

[Sledgeweather17]

Off course roach. Nothing was settled that night.

Roach also said after the Bradley 3 fight:

Link: http://www.nj.com/sports/ledger/izen...against_a.html

A piece of the article:

By: JERRY IZENBERG

Roach: "Look, if he means it about retiring, then more power to him, He's earned it. But if he changes his mind after what I saw tonight, yes, I would encourage him and I would not hesitate to train him again.

Roach:"When I see Manny Pacquiao like that, this is the best Manny Pacquiao. He hasn't missed a beat. I would like to see him fight again."

Roach: And there are big fights out there for him (Pacquiao). Canelo Alvarez and Amir Kahn would draw big numbers. And then, of course, anybody who understands boxing knows that when Pacquiao tore his shoulder before and during the Mayweather fight, nothing — absolutely nothing — was truly settled on that night.

Lol, you idiots do realise that Pac's team went live on air and said that Pac got injured in 2008 right?

You also know that Mayweather came back from retirement in 2009 I presume?

So when exactly could Mayweather fought an 'uninjured' Pac?

[BillyBoxing]

It's more shocking that a poster who has spammed these forums for about a year still gets to run rampant, so your not at all oblivious to it and yet you've done nothing?

If they banned trolls and nuthuggers, this forum would end like a desert.

[BillyBoxing]

lmfao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Man, you're just a spoon on the mayweather side(nutsack).

[joseph5620]

If they banned trolls and nuthuggers, this forum would end like a desert.

No it wouldn't.

[ThatDude44]

That loss hurts Roach's and Manny's souls soooo bad. They just cannot accept that they lost after talking aaaaaall that *****. Let it go already.

[Jedi Vader]

It's more shocking that a poster who has spammed these forums for about a year still gets to run rampant, so your not at all oblivious to it and yet you've done nothing?

Tremendous post.

[Bronx2245]

Honestly, I would rather see another Pacquiao vs. Marquez fight than another Pacquiao vs. Mayweather fight! And Pacquiao vs. Broner..."priceless!"

[Bronx2245]

Have you idiots ever thought that it might be the other way around? I mean, isn't it ironic that the fight was made after Mayweather began to visibly slip in his two Maidana fights?

Isn't it ironic that Mayweather is actually two whole years older than Pacquiao?

Or how about that fact that Pacquiao's trainer Feddie Roach actually admitted live on tv that they were the ones at fault for the fight being delayed?

Or do you guys just get off on creating these alternate realities in your minds?

How do they ignore Freddie's statement? Do they remember Arum's comments: "Scared of needles," "His cuts are not healed," "We need an outdoor stadium built"

January 7, 2012:
Dan Rafael

Friday's turn of events made that pretty clear. There have been previous negotiations and lots of rhetoric. At various times throughout this whole ordeal, I believe both sides have been to blame.

But at this moment, the fault of a fight not being made falls squarely on the shoulders of Top Rank promoter Bob Arum, who, in my view, simply doesn't want to make the match at a moment when there seems to be no legitimate impediment.

Arum doesn't want to match his cash cow, Pacquiao, with somebody he doesn't control, and he has no control over Mayweather. He once did, but that was years ago, before their nasty breakup.

Arum is also a smart boxing guy, as are his matchmakers, Brad "Abdul" Goodman and Bruce Trampler. They know Pacquiao would be the underdog, especially given how he looked in his controversial majority decision win in November against Juan Manuel Marquez, whom Mayweather thoroughly dominated when they fought in September 2009. Arum and his people know there is a strong possibility Pacquiao will lose if he ever fights Mayweather...

It was just this week that Arum said he would go to the Philippines to meet with Pacquiao and present him with the names of four possible opponents for May or June: Miguel Cotto, Marquez, Lamont Peterson and Timothy Bradley Jr.

Arum figured Mayweather would be in jail and off the table. Now that Mayweather is available and seemingly would like to make the match, Arum suddenly isn't interested.

He used the lame excuse of the cut Pacquiao suffered against Marquez, saying he might not be ready for May. (I've never heard of a cut taking more than six months to heal.) However, earlier this week, when Arum thought Mayweather would be on ice behind bars, he said there was a good possibility Pacquiao would fight in May.

Moments after Mayweather was granted the continuance, Arum changed his tune.

"We're fighting in June, one of the four guys," Arum told me over the phone.

I asked him, now that Mayweather was available, would he at least be part of the conversation when Arum meets with Pacquiao next week?

A perturbed Arum's response was, "Absolutely not. Nope..."

Then Schaefer ripped into Arum as the impediment to making a fight he claims Mayweather and Golden Boy have wanted all along.

"I don't think Manny Pacquiao wants to be on that list of names for Mayweather, or Bob doesn't want him to be on the list," Schaefer said. "I am sick and tired of Arum's bulls---. First Bob said June is when Pacquiao would fight, when Floyd was going to be on May 5. Then, when it looked like Floyd wouldn't be available in May, he said Pacquiao would be available in May. Now, since they know Mayweather is going to fight in May, suddenly Pacquiao is going to fight in June.

"I'm tired of all those people saying it is Mayweather who doesn't want the fight. Arum knows who to call. He can pick up the phone and call me and say, 'Let's get a fight done with Pacquiao.' The rest of it is bulls---. The rest can go drink the Arum and Top Rank Kool-Aid. It is Arum who doesn't want the fight to happen, end of story."

I agree with Schaefer.

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...yweather-fight

[SthPaw]

I see people saying the exact same stuff as this time last year...Come on. It is over, their time has passed and the next generation is forming. Before we know it the sport will have another figurehead or two and this talk of May/Pac will be transferred onto them instead. It is the way things go.

I understand the May/Pac legacy was a huge part of the sport for so long, and discussion on it is cool, but still arguing about things that no longer matter is a waste of time.