Mayweather vs Marciano: Who was Greater?

[Spoon23]

do you guys ever get tired.

Marciano was great but didnt fight the quality of opposition Mayweather did.

both have 49 fights but Mayweather fought far more top ten contenders....look it up, you wont

Mayweather also beat more hall of famers


Mayweather beat more champions....screw the trinkets...lineal champions as well

Mayweather has more title defenses of his titles....and yes lineal...matter fact he has like 2 or 3 times the defenses Marciano had

Also in the ring he was just flat out more talented


I know you dont like floyd but come on man...he definitely was better than Marciano

Sorry, but your hero Floyd is a manufactured/fabricated career with watered down competition. Looks good on paper, but if you DISECT his accomplishments, especially the later part, you can see how watered down it was, from all the cherry picking, past prime, and unfair conditions enforced on his opponents. fought like he's in a track meet. His achievements in the later stage are very much hallow.

The Rock fought all comers head on. No ifs no buts just went on to obliterate the competition. A mark of a true Atg. He fights and gives the fans an exciting show and finishing it in brutal fashion. Legend. I can't say the same about Floyd. Even Floyd's last fight was ridiculously boring. He thought Berto was Pac so he still ran and hugged for 12 rounds lmao

# real ATGs fight like lions. Can't say that about Floyd.

Floyd entire career in recent ten years have nearly ALL been some sort of pathetic match up because of Floyd.

Fight JMM, Floyd doesn't make weight
Fight Canelo catch weight
Fight Maidana even though he puts up a poll for fans to decide whon he should fight and Khan was the winner of that poll
Forces ****** stipulations into Maidana fight with unfair gloves etc
Forces Pacquiao to wait 6 years to fight him
Refuses Pacquiao getting pain killing jab for his shoulder meanwhile Floyd is using all the PED masking things Lance Armstrong was doing
Gets caught with an excessive amount of IV and used it illegally before the Pac fight likely to mask hs drug habit
Fight Dela Hoya coming off his worst run of form
Fights Cotto only after Pacquiao destroys him
Having words with referees to disallow inside fighting which is legal unlike elbowing, forearming and clinching

Essentially the only person he fought prime in recent years was Ricky Hatton and not many rate him that and the referee had Floyds back not allowing any inside action similar to the second Maidana fight.


Rocky had considerably less B.'S. in his career, Floyd is the bigger crook of the two if you consider Rocky of that nature that and Rocky fought against me dangerous guys.

[therealpugilist]

Sorry, but your hero Floyd is a manufactured/fabricated career with watered down competition. Looks good on paper, but if you DISECT his accomplishments, especially the later part, you can see how watered down it was, from all the cherry picking, past prime, and unfair conditions enforced on his opponents. fought like he's in a track meet. His achievements in the later stage are very much hallow.

The Rock fought all comers head on. No ifs no buts just went on to obliterate the competition. A mark of a true Atg. He fights and gives the fans an exciting show and finishing it in brutal fashion. Legend. I can't say the same about Floyd. Even Floyd's last fight was ridiculously boring. He thought Berto was Pac so he still ran and hugged for 12 rounds lmao

# real ATGs fight like lions. Can't say that about Floyd.

I guess willie pep wasnt an all time great...lol

if you have a style preference cool but you obviously lack logic and common sense.

being exciting does not make you great, nor does struggling with past prime fighters like Joe Walcott

every elite fighter Marciano beat was past prime but you will say " what ATG did Mayweather beat in his prime?"

you're a hypocrite

keep fighting the good fight, we already know who most of you guys are with the gazillion alts


bro you are ******ed if you think marciano was more skilled or accomplished more than floyd

just admit you dont like him and dont give him any credit because of it

[j0zef]

I like and respect both fighters but think that Marciano had a better career for several reasons. One, he was a heavyweight. Any one punch could have ruined his perfect record . Two, Marciano was a stand up fighter and a slugger. He took on all challenges head on, and even when he got knocked down, he got up, persevered and won the fight. Floyd was mostly a defensive fighter, especially later on in his career.

Three, he fought in a different era where fighters were much less protected. There's a good reason why all the great fighters that Marciano fought all had 5, 10, 20 losses. Going through that era undefeated is a much bigger accomplishment than doing so in the 2000s. Look at the current 'top' fighters - everyone is undefeated, and everyone has asterisks next to their names. I can make an argument that every single current P4P fighter is a hype job - Kovalev, Ward, Golovkin, Gonzalez, Brook, Crawford, Rigo, etc.

It's arguable whose resume is better. But because of the reasons above, I feel that Floyd's accomplishments are less impressive than Marciano's.

[gamesworn]

I like and respect both fighters but think that Marciano had a better career for several reasons. One, he was a heavyweight. Any one punch could have ruined his perfect record . Two, Marciano was a stand up fighter and a slugger. He took on all challenges head on, and even when he got knocked down, he got up, persevered and won the fight. Floyd was mostly a defensive fighter, especially later on in his career.

Three, he fought in a different era where fighters were much less protected. There's a good reason why all the great fighters that Marciano fought all had 5, 10, 20 losses. Going through that era undefeated is a much bigger accomplishment than doing so in the 2000s. Look at the current 'top' fighters - everyone is undefeated, and everyone has asterisks next to their names. I can make an argument that every single current P4P fighter is a hype job - Kovalev, Ward, Golovkin, Gonzalez, Brook, Crawford, Rigo, etc.

It's arguable whose resume is better. But because of the reasons above, I feel that Floyd's accomplishments are less impressive than Marciano's.

Great post.

[The Big Dunn]

I like and respect both fighters but think that Marciano had a better career for several reasons. One, he was a heavyweight. Any one punch could have ruined his perfect record . Two, Marciano was a stand up fighter and a slugger. He took on all challenges head on, and even when he got knocked down, he got up, persevered and won the fight. Floyd was mostly a defensive fighter, especially later on in his career.

Three, he fought in a different era where fighters were much less protected. There's a good reason why all the great fighters that Marciano fought all had 5, 10, 20 losses. Going through that era undefeated is a much bigger accomplishment than doing so in the 2000s. Look at the current 'top' fighters - everyone is undefeated, and everyone has asterisks next to their names. I can make an argument that every single current P4P fighter is a hype job - Kovalev, Ward, Golovkin, Gonzalez, Brook, Crawford, Rigo, etc.

It's arguable whose resume is better. But because of the reasons above, I feel that Floyd's accomplishments are less impressive than Marciano's.

could one of the reasons also be Marciano is on your list of your favorites ever in your sig?

[j0zef]

could one of the reasons also be Marciano is on your list of your favorites ever in your sig?

Nah. I turned off sigs a month after I signed up for the forums, so I didn't even remember that he's listed there.
I truly like both fighters almost equally, and I've defended Floyd from anti-floyd trolls plenty of times. What I don't like is the personality. Floyd's kind of a ****ty human being. I don't like him for the same reason I could never like and respect Carlos Monzon - a ****ty human being.

[therealpugilist]

I like and respect both fighters but think that Marciano had a better career for several reasons. One, he was a heavyweight. Any one punch could have ruined his perfect record . Two, Marciano was a stand up fighter and a slugger. He took on all challenges head on, and even when he got knocked down, he got up, persevered and won the fight. Floyd was mostly a defensive fighter, especially later on in his career.

Three, he fought in a different era where fighters were much less protected. There's a good reason why all the great fighters that Marciano fought all had 5, 10, 20 losses. Going through that era undefeated is a much bigger accomplishment than doing so in the 2000s. Look at the current 'top' fighters - everyone is undefeated, and everyone has asterisks next to their names. I can make an argument that every single current P4P fighter is a hype job - Kovalev, Ward, Golovkin, Gonzalez, Brook, Crawford, Rigo, etc.

It's arguable whose resume is better. But because of the reasons above, I feel that Floyd's accomplishments are less impressive than Marciano's.

sooooo....you're penalizing mayweather for not being a punching bag and being dominant?

wow it just really shows how people think....life isnt a movie....who would you rather be? the guy who wins clearly and leaves the ring in one piece, or the guy won but his nose is hanging off his face and he went life and death.


that is one of the most ******ed posts ive seen in a long time

resume isnt even arguable......Marciano beat a handful of contenders and 4 hall of famers

Mayweather has been more than that and also more top ten contenders


just say you prefer marciano because of his style and heart instead of him being greater, because thats exactly what it sounds like

[The Big Dunn]

Nah. I turned off sigs a month after I signed up for the forums, so I didn't even remember that he's listed there.
I truly like both fighters almost equally, and I've defended Floyd from anti-floyd trolls plenty of times. What I don't like is the personality. Floyd's kind of a ****ty human being. I don't like him for the same reason I could never like and respect Carlos Monzon - a ****ty human being.

LMFAO!! I'm pretty sure you didn't need to see your sig to remind yourself Marciano is one of your favorites ever.

I get that but Monzon got convicted of murder or manslaughter. Floyd is bad, but he aint that bad.

[j0zef]

LMFAO!! I'm pretty sure you didn't need to see your sig to remind yourself Marciano is one of your favorites ever.

I get that but Monzon got convicted of murder or manslaughter. Floyd is bad, but he aint that bad.

Not sure what you're saying. I mean, I've read about Rocky and watched old footage from time to time, so I like him. When I signed up for the site, I put him there. Does that mean he's my absolute favorite? Not really. If you asked me who my favorite fighters are right now, I don't think I'll get everyone that's in my signature.

I didn't mean that I think Floyd is nearly as bad as Monzon - he's not. I was explaining why even though I like both Marciano and Floyd equally-ish as fighters, one made it to my sig while the other didn't.

I like Tim Duncan more than LeBron too

[LacedUp]

Rocky has questionable wins but Floyd entire career in recent ten years have nearly ALL been some sort of pathetic match up because of Floyd.

Fight JMM, Floyd doesn't make weight
Fight Canelo catch weight
Fight Maidana even though he puts up a poll for fans to decide whon he should fight and Khan was the winner of that poll
Forces ****** stipulations into Maidana fight with unfair gloves etc
Forces Pacquiao to wait 6 years to fight him
Refuses Pacquiao getting pain killing jab for his shoulder meanwhile Floyd is using all the PED masking things Lance Armstrong was doing
Gets caught with an excessive amount of IV and used it illegally before the Pac fight likely to mask hs drug habit
Fight Dela Hoya coming off his worst run of form
Fights Cotto only after Pacquiao destroys him
Having words with referees to disallow inside fighting which is legal unlike elbowing, forearming and clinching

Essentially the only person he fought prime in recent years was Ricky Hatton and not many rate him that and the referee had Floyds back not allowing any inside action similar to the second Maidana fight.


Rocky had considerably less B.'S. in his career, Floyd is the bigger crook of the two if you consider Rocky of that nature that and Rocky fought against me dangerous guys.

NOTE: This is how you spot a real turd on this forum. instantly claims someone is much better, goes into all the reasons why the other is bad and doesn't make A SINGLE COMMENT as to why the first is better. Absolute joke.This joker saw a marciano documentary and now thinks he's an expert. Probably never seen a full marciano fight ever.

Rocky had considerably less media surrounding his career. He also CONSIDERABLY less quality of opponents. No one then hardly ever knew him until late in his career + the 2-3 quality fighters he beat were either over the hill or severely over the hill.

if you want to pick holes in resumes, you can do it to anyone. Floyd's resume and quality of work is far beyond,as in far far beyond, what Marciano did in his brief stint as champion. or we can go into how 70% of Rocky's resume is made out of part time fighters, bouncers and street tough guys. Not pro athletes. But i'm sure you're going to tell me they are better than world champions

You are talking about a guy who's been world champ since '98 ffs. Consistently fought top or best opponents in his division. He's clearly an ATG and has done way more in his career than Marciano.