Comments Thread For: Sugar Ray Leonard: I Told Mayweather I Would Have Beat Him

[rudy]

What a disrespectful piece of shtt. Floyd outboxes him in any era at least 8-4 maybe 10-2

Stop smoking crack, could Mayweather run for 12 rounds against Hagler HELL NO

Let alone beat, Leonard was way too strong, he beat his daddy to a pulp what you think would happen to the son in era

Mayweather will not go to Light-Middeweight let alone Middleweight or Light heavyweight

[stuff jones]

SRL fought ATG in their primes, unlike Mayweather.

I think he 8-4s Mayweather.

[soul_survivor]

Leonard would massacre Mayweather. It wouldn't even be close.

[SplitSecond]

Leonard would dominate Mayweather, lay off the dope.

And I'm sure it was during conversation, no ill will meant, lots of fighters on friendly terms will pull the "yea, but you know I'dda whooped yo ass don't you?"

[BillyBoxing]

IMO, it's not about if Leonard beat Floyd, but who was the best P4P since Floyd was a beast at 130/135, def not at 147.

Floyd has been fighting B fighters at 147, or A fighters coming from very lower weights (Marquez, Pacquiao).

Leonard beat guys like Hearns or Duran who was a beast at 135 but also 147.

[BillyBoxing]

Would be a close fight imo. 115-113 type fight

Dunno about that, what I'm sure is Floyd would NOT have been able to beat Hearns and Hagler.

Hearns jab alone would rip Floyd and Hagler would maul Floyd.

Floyd wouldn't have the power to earn their respect, let alone hurt them.

Overhall, Leonard was a true WW and was somehow bigger than Floyd and would have beaten him fair and square.

Leonard could box, had A+ speed AND would be too strong for Floyd.
Leonard had a titanium chin, and enough power to knock big guys out (Hearns, Benitez, Lalonde).

That would be the key difference.

[NaijaD]

I think you're right about the whole semantics thing. I'm arguing peak physical potential and you're arguing Tyson's overall performance. I noted his decline, but I still feel that he was prime physically. Nothing more, nothing less. Just his physical potential. That's what it means to be prime. You don't experience physical decline at 23, unless you've had it literally beaten out of you, or you're a gymnast or something. I attribute Tyson's troubles to his mentality more than anything else, not a lack of physical ability. If the Tyson from 1990 thought like the Tyson in 1988, then he would have washed Douglas, but that's not due to a lack of physical ability. That's all I've ever been arguing, which is why I keep saying "physical prime."

And yes, I've seen all 3 Ali-Frazier fights, but I'll reserve my opinion, because it doesn't have much to do with my original point.

Yeah I don't get people that say Tyson was past it when he lost to Douglas, he hadn't physically declined and he didn't get punished in any preceding fights. The reality is that he was unfocused and his corner was not prepared for the challenge that Douglas brought (a 42-1 underdog is supposed to be a walkover). Most people think a fighter's prime is when he gets his best wins, it's not..... A fighter's prime is when he's physically at his peak. That's why you get the term "wasted prime years".

I only have to scold you for getting into an argument with boxingscene's biggest Pac Stan slow motion troll.

You have to credit Mayweather for always taking his opponents seriously, a lot of great fighters lost against guys they shouldn't have.... Floyd in his mid to late thirties still gave high performance levels which gave the illusion that he was still prime but really his prime ended after the Marquez fight, his feet became noticeably slower in the Mosley fight.

In regards to the topic, SRL would be favoured quite strongly (especially because he's the natural 147 lber) but I don't believe its a fact that he would have won.

[deathofaclown]

Floyd would have schooled him.

He might have beaten Floyd Sr. But Floyd Sr. was no Jr.

People talk about Floyd's level of competition at times, Leonard was meant to be an elite fighter when he was fighting bums like Bonds and Finch. He was the ultimate cherry picker, he truly did fight Hagler because he felt Hagler was on the slide and ready to be beaten.

[hugh grant]

Theres no reason for anyone to think Floyd would beat SRL. All Floyd has to do is beat someone that is on SRLs level, then there is a case for Floyd. Pac is on SRLs level but smaller. Floyd needs to fight someone with the physical advantages that SRL enjoys. Nelo wasnt that person who was short, short arms, no speed advantage or anything. Just being heavier is nothing.

But Floyd has always been unwilling to do that.

[The plunger man]

Your not being all the way honest here Lol Anytime Floyd had a tough fight, it was always a circumstance that you are trying to ignore!

He has faced plenty of fighters better than marcos, Oscar, Castillio, and had more awkward styles and some had styles identical to them.

Yet he humiliated them all! So why was his fights with these fighters named, so difficult for him?

Because when he faced Castillio he complained about a shoulder injury from the second round before he even knew the fight would be tough! He didnt make up an excuse after the fight. It was at the very beginning.

Against Oscar Mayweather had a small handful of fights at 140, then leaped to 47 for a small handfull of fights, then went to 54 to face Oscar! Obviously the Mayweather who faced Canelo would TKO the DogShiet out of that very same version of Oscar!

Floyd had humiliated so many fighters identical to Marcos and even more Awkward than him! However, when he faced Marcos, he was way past prime, and 17lbs lighter! You have to speak facts not shiesty little tricks designed to help your agenda! And Marcos is leagues below Floyd!

I honestly think the only fighters in history who can even test Floyd are GGG and Hagler due to size and force! And maybe a bunch of unknowned middleweights, due to the same reasons!

Your wrong ! Leonard was naturally bigger than floyd ..he had all the natural advantages over floyd in size , height and reach , the fighters who leonard beat are all true ring all time greats and when you compare the durans , hearns and benitez's to the ortiz , guerrero or even oscars..there's really no comparison...ortiz has never achieved anything. Guerrero was brought up from lightweight, Oscar and mosley were both natural lightweights and past it, pacquaio a 5ft 6 67 inc reach...leonard could box on the back foot and he could fight u up close and finish you...lighting quick handspeed and footwork .....floyd would get wrecked because nothing he could do would stop leonard fro getting to him...leonard was equally as gifted as floyd but was a bigger version...leonard in his prime has to much for floyd