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  • CaneloMaidana
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    #41
    Originally posted by IllegalDeath
    I agree. One of the problem with boxing world is that they fail to acknowledge the timings of the fight. When GGG faught Proska, Macklin, Murray etc they all were top5-10 MWs.
    Just like when Floyd faught Ghost he was an undefeated top contender, if ghosts went on to become trash doesnt mean Floyd doesnt get full credit for it.
    Boxers like Zab Judah etc all went on a downhill, but because of the timings Floyd gets full credit of beating them.
    Proska was never that good. He lost just before golovkin and after.

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    • IllegalDeath
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      #42
      Originally posted by mick1303
      The thing is - resumes are utilized blindly, without distinction HOW the fighter fared against his opposition, just based on the mere fact that he faced them. To me this is oversimplification. Canelo faced Floyd and Lara. And was beaten by first and had a draw (in most views) with the second. But they are "on his resume"...
      I agree. There are people who consider even a L fight as a part of fighter's resume. If that were the case Darnel Boone would be p4p.

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      • i'm a fun haver
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        #43
        Why didn't Takam beat Parker?
        Takam has a better resume. What happened? Like to hear all the resumef@gs tell it

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        • stefl14
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          #44
          Originally posted by i'm a fun haver
          Why didn't Takam beat Parker?
          Takam has a better resume. What happened? Like to hear all the resumef@gs tell it
          That's not the point. The point is you can't anoint a fighter until they've actually done something. A fighter should never be praised until they beat top fighters.

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          • IllegalDeath
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            #45
            Originally posted by stefl14
            That's not the point. The point is you can't anoint a fighter until they've actually done something. A fighter should never be praised until they beat top fighters.
            And should he praised/not be praised if every other Top fighter has ducked him ?

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            • stefl14
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              #46
              Originally posted by IllegalDeath
              And should he praised/not be praised if every other Top fighter has ducked him ?
              He shouldn't be praised, the people who have ducked him should be heavily slated. But unfortunately I simply cannot rate a fighter too highly until they beat top opponents, no matter what the circumstances because you just cannot judge until they do. However, since this thread was made with GGG in mind, I will say that he is being ducked shamelessly and I have no respect for *****boy Canelo any more as a result.

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              • i'm a fun haver
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                #47
                Originally posted by stefl14
                That's not the point. The point is you can't anoint a fighter until they've actually done something. A fighter should never be praised until they beat top fighters.
                Did you pick Takam to beat Parker?
                "MUH RESUME DOE!" lol

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                • stefl14
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by i'm a fun haver
                  Did you pick Takam to beat Parker?
                  "MUH RESUME DOE!" lol
                  Sigh. Idiots on this forum missing the point as usual. You're probably one of them idiots who says Roy Jones is the greatest fighter who ever lived by the eye test. I guess I shouldn't get too mad about the idiocy on this forum - barely anyone on it has ever had even an amateur fight. Hell, I'd wager that probably 80% have never sparred.

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                  • Robbie Barrett
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by i'm a fun haver
                    Did you pick Takam to beat Parker?
                    "MUH RESUME DOE!" lol
                    Hello Rath.

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                    • therealpugilist
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by IllegalDeath
                      Its too early to say whether Donaire is a HOF and one of the best fighters. He has always lost whenever he stepped up. Talking about former champions, Kassim Ouma , Geale, Rubio all are former champions including Lemieux now.

                      And you just proved my point as to why Resumes shouldnt be the sole criteria of judging a fighter's capability as you seem to give Murray no credit at all. A straight forward hater like you would just see a L on record and degrade that boxer into some bum without ever knowing or analyzing the real fight.

                      And even then, Rigo and GGG does not have that massive of a difference in their resume that one is top 3 and the other is not even in top 10.
                      Your hypocrisy again, is hilarious.
                      Unlike you, I consider both Rigo and GGG p4p as they have stood out since their amateur days because I don't hate someone for no reason.
                      Rubio never won a legit title


                      The only titleholders GGG beat were a shot to **** ouma, geale n lemmie

                      Ams don't count....GGG is on the cusp of p4p has to fight an elite fighter first

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